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Have a look at AdonisJS. It's in a somewhat weird spot: On the one hand it is mature and has amazing DX/UX going for it, with a lot of very thoughtful tooling.

Have a look at AdonisJS. It's in a somewhat weird spot: On the one hand it is mature and has amazing DX/UX going for it, with a lot of very thoughtful tooling. On the other, for some reason, it has always remained niche with just a couple of core developers, even though it's now nearing version 6 and at least 8 years of releases. I do not know why that is the case. It's a beautifully written full stack framework, taking having inspiration from both Rails and Laravel and in the world of web TS, it should get a lot more attention than it does. Maybe it's just the weird name :^)

Gigachad 4y ago
I used AdonisJS. Reminds me a lot of rails but with the added safety of typescript.
- himhckr 4y ago
  Totally agree! I have used many frameworks (even written my own) but nothing gets close to Laravel for PHP and AdonisJS for TypeScript in terms of features out of the box and DX.
  - 0xblinq 4y ago
    Adonis is inspired from Laravel but it’s far from being comparable. Features, community, “battle proveness”, third party packages, etc are just not there yet.
apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
I was looking at Adonis and was shocked at how much it reminded me of Laravel and Rails. The creator definitely had a ton of experience in one or both.
0xblinq 4y ago
I think it’s main problem is the lack of community. There are almost no third party packages and the core team is pretty small (one or two devs). I wouldn’t risk using it to find myself 5 years down the line using a zombie project I couldn’t move away from. One thing is picking a library which I can replace if it it gets abandoned, etc. a very different one is picking a full stack framework where replacing it means rewriting everything. If I wanted a full stack framework, I’d pick Laravel or Rails because they’re already proven, have a big community, are used by big names in the industry and I’m 99.9% sure they’ll still be around and maintained 5 years from now.
- jstummbillig 4y ago
  I partly agree. Having a community is nice and motivating, but that makes building good software over that many years without ever being the community darling more impressive to me and seems like a great indicator for deep commitment, that gives me a different kind of confidence than hype and VC money. I am not sure which sustains better in 2023.
rdevsrex 4y ago
I use AdonisJs at work. Having used Rails and Laravel before it was a very easy jump.
creamyhorror 4y ago
I've also wondered why AdonisJS didn't quite take off and grow a community while another single-developer-centric framework, Vue, did. But of course Vue is a frontend framework, and maybe the appetite for those was higher (and associated risk was lower) than for a batteries-included JS backend framework like Adonis.

Gigachad 4y ago

I used AdonisJS. Reminds me a lot of rails but with the added safety of typescript.

himhckr 4y ago
Totally agree! I have used many frameworks (even written my own) but nothing gets close to Laravel for PHP and AdonisJS for TypeScript in terms of features out of the box and DX.
- 0xblinq 4y ago
  Adonis is inspired from Laravel but it’s far from being comparable. Features, community, “battle proveness”, third party packages, etc are just not there yet.

apocalyptic0n3 4y ago

I was looking at Adonis and was shocked at how much it reminded me of Laravel and Rails. The creator definitely had a ton of experience in one or both.

0xblinq 4y ago

I think it’s main problem is the lack of community. There are almost no third party packages and the core team is pretty small (one or two devs). I wouldn’t risk using it to find myself 5 years down the line using a zombie project I couldn’t move away from. One thing is picking a library which I can replace if it it gets abandoned, etc. a very different one is picking a full stack framework where replacing it means rewriting everything. If I wanted a full stack framework, I’d pick Laravel or Rails because they’re already proven, have a big community, are used by big names in the industry and I’m 99.9% sure they’ll still be around and maintained 5 years from now.

jstummbillig 4y ago
I partly agree. Having a community is nice and motivating, but that makes building good software over that many years without ever being the community darling more impressive to me and seems like a great indicator for deep commitment, that gives me a different kind of confidence than hype and VC money. I am not sure which sustains better in 2023.

rdevsrex 4y ago

I use AdonisJs at work. Having used Rails and Laravel before it was a very easy jump.

creamyhorror 4y ago

I've also wondered why AdonisJS didn't quite take off and grow a community while another single-developer-centric framework, Vue, did. But of course Vue is a frontend framework, and maybe the appetite for those was higher (and associated risk was lower) than for a batteries-included JS backend framework like Adonis.