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Technology sanctions on China (for example, ASML in the Netherlands). Sanctions on Russian energy. Basically Germany's entire foreign policy is economic suici

Technology sanctions on China (for example, ASML in the Netherlands). Sanctions on Russian energy. Basically Germany's entire foreign policy is economic suicide and very much driven by a US stooge (Baerbock). The total penetration of the German Green Party (formerly pacifist) is an excellent example of American influence.

adriancr 4y ago
Technology sanctions on China are from US. Since ASML is using US tech for EUV they need to comply. These also make sense give China is building up its military using this and if they invade taiwan or other neighbors we'd be forced to fight them. Sanctions on Russian energy are a response to invasion. Apart from moral reasons, they also are meant to cripple russia so we don't have to fight them later in the baltics, in poland or romania. So it's pretty much EU self interest here.
- ExoticPearTree 4y ago
  > Sanctions on Russian energy are a response to invasion. I might get downvoted for this, but the duty of every head of state is to ensure its country's economic and citizens well being is above anything else. And what the EU as a whole did was exactly the opposite with the sanctions. And no, no one would have had to fight anywhere else in Europe.
  - adriancr 4y ago
    They are ensuring their countries well being. They are doing that by ensuring future conflict is much more unlikely. If these measures were done earlier perhaps russia would not have started current invasion and we'd be much better off. So perhaps politicians failed by being compliant up to now. Try telling the baltics, poland, romania that they should not fear russia and continue trading... Same countries russia constantly threatens and are part of EU and NATO. Imagine germany's position if Poland is conquered by russia. > And no, no one would have had to fight anywhere else in Europe. That's a bold statement considering russia's posturing, threats, history and leaked initial plans.
  - arrrg 4y ago
    Germany in particular has been handling this crisis extremely well, showing itself to be much more adaptable than many feared. I’m very proud of that and I think cutting dependency on Russian gas – while we might not have necessarily wished for it to go this fast – is just plain good policy, making Germany more resilient in the future. Obviously there have been some short term bad consequences, that‘s pretty much unavoidable with any such drastic shift. But consequences have been far from catastrophic or existential for us. Germans and Europeans are going through some times that are a bit tougher – the people suffering, however, are in Ukraine. I see Germany and Europe coming out of this more resilient and safer, especially if we make sure Putin cannot win this war.
  - the_why_of_y 4y ago
    Watch this clip from Russian state TV (broadcast in 2021) discussing a potential invasion of several EU countries. https://www.reddit.com/r/latvia/comments/tdct34/russian_military_expert_korotchenko_discusses_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/latvia/comments/tdct34/russian_mili... This article says the speaker is "Colonel Igor Korotchenko, formerly of the Russian General Staff and air force and currently a reserve officer". https://www.thesun.ie/news/8513264/russian-state-tv-discusses-invasion-seizing-baltic-states/ https://www.thesun.ie/news/8513264/russian-state-tv-discusse...

adriancr 4y ago

Technology sanctions on China are from US. Since ASML is using US tech for EUV they need to comply. These also make sense give China is building up its military using this and if they invade taiwan or other neighbors we'd be forced to fight them. Sanctions on Russian energy are a response to invasion. Apart from moral reasons, they also are meant to cripple russia so we don't have to fight them later in the baltics, in poland or romania. So it's pretty much EU self interest here.

ExoticPearTree 4y ago
> Sanctions on Russian energy are a response to invasion. I might get downvoted for this, but the duty of every head of state is to ensure its country's economic and citizens well being is above anything else. And what the EU as a whole did was exactly the opposite with the sanctions. And no, no one would have had to fight anywhere else in Europe.
- adriancr 4y ago
  They are ensuring their countries well being. They are doing that by ensuring future conflict is much more unlikely. If these measures were done earlier perhaps russia would not have started current invasion and we'd be much better off. So perhaps politicians failed by being compliant up to now. Try telling the baltics, poland, romania that they should not fear russia and continue trading... Same countries russia constantly threatens and are part of EU and NATO. Imagine germany's position if Poland is conquered by russia. > And no, no one would have had to fight anywhere else in Europe. That's a bold statement considering russia's posturing, threats, history and leaked initial plans.
- arrrg 4y ago
  Germany in particular has been handling this crisis extremely well, showing itself to be much more adaptable than many feared. I’m very proud of that and I think cutting dependency on Russian gas – while we might not have necessarily wished for it to go this fast – is just plain good policy, making Germany more resilient in the future. Obviously there have been some short term bad consequences, that‘s pretty much unavoidable with any such drastic shift. But consequences have been far from catastrophic or existential for us. Germans and Europeans are going through some times that are a bit tougher – the people suffering, however, are in Ukraine. I see Germany and Europe coming out of this more resilient and safer, especially if we make sure Putin cannot win this war.
- the_why_of_y 4y ago
  Watch this clip from Russian state TV (broadcast in 2021) discussing a potential invasion of several EU countries. https://www.reddit.com/r/latvia/comments/tdct34/russian_military_expert_korotchenko_discusses_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/latvia/comments/tdct34/russian_mili... This article says the speaker is "Colonel Igor Korotchenko, formerly of the Russian General Staff and air force and currently a reserve officer". https://www.thesun.ie/news/8513264/russian-state-tv-discusses-invasion-seizing-baltic-states/ https://www.thesun.ie/news/8513264/russian-state-tv-discusse...