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"Who’s gonna trust a human doctor to diagnose their stuff if the human brain holds 9 things and the AI holds thousands?" The human brain can hold much more tha

"Who’s gonna trust a human doctor to diagnose their stuff if the human brain holds 9 things and the AI holds thousands?" The human brain can hold much more than 9 things and even though AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon, I really want the final diagnosis done by a human. Once true AGI arrieves, I might change my opinion, but that might take a while.

adalacelove 4y ago
> AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon We have been hearing this since forever. Revolutions do happen but not the way we expect. My anecdotical experience: no one in my team of about 30 people developing SW uses ChatGPT or similar in their day to day. This may change, or not.
- staunton 4y ago
  AI is being used in medicine already. For example, in diagnostics. Most new diagnostics devices (e.g. CT scan, cardiograms) include AI systems that suggest an interpretation and point towards possible problems that a doctor might occasionally miss. Granted, currently deployed systems are mostly awful, way behind the state of the art, and therefore mostly useless. Maybe it's because designing medical devices and getting them approved takes so long. Maybe it's because the manufacturers put AI in there for marketing purposes only, while assuming nobody will use the suggestiona anyway. In any case, I strongly expect the trend to continue and these systems to become very useful quite soon.
kolinko 4y ago
9 things is considered a standard for working memory (kind of like processor registers), for people with ADHD it's even less - 3-5. Try writing a number from one piece of paper to another. If it's more than 7-9 numbers, you won't do it in one shot, unless you spend extra time memorizing it.
- alexvoda 4y ago
  The equivalent for computers would be L1 cache on the CPU which is tiny.
  - kolinko 4y ago
    More like cpu registers I would say :)
- JohnFen 4y ago
  That can be increased quite a bit with practice. But it's also not important. It's just the cache memory -- it isn't the limit of what can be learned and recalled.
  - kolinko 4y ago
    It is a limit on what you can reason about without a piece of paper. I’m proficient at math, but my working memory is around 6, so I cannot add two three digit numbers to each other in my head (unless I see numbers to be added in front of me).
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      OK, but I and nearly all of my friends can, so we have duelling anecdotes here.

adalacelove 4y ago

> AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon We have been hearing this since forever. Revolutions do happen but not the way we expect. My anecdotical experience: no one in my team of about 30 people developing SW uses ChatGPT or similar in their day to day. This may change, or not.

staunton 4y ago
AI is being used in medicine already. For example, in diagnostics. Most new diagnostics devices (e.g. CT scan, cardiograms) include AI systems that suggest an interpretation and point towards possible problems that a doctor might occasionally miss. Granted, currently deployed systems are mostly awful, way behind the state of the art, and therefore mostly useless. Maybe it's because designing medical devices and getting them approved takes so long. Maybe it's because the manufacturers put AI in there for marketing purposes only, while assuming nobody will use the suggestiona anyway. In any case, I strongly expect the trend to continue and these systems to become very useful quite soon.

kolinko 4y ago

9 things is considered a standard for working memory (kind of like processor registers), for people with ADHD it's even less - 3-5. Try writing a number from one piece of paper to another. If it's more than 7-9 numbers, you won't do it in one shot, unless you spend extra time memorizing it.

alexvoda 4y ago
The equivalent for computers would be L1 cache on the CPU which is tiny.
- kolinko 4y ago
  More like cpu registers I would say :)
JohnFen 4y ago
That can be increased quite a bit with practice. But it's also not important. It's just the cache memory -- it isn't the limit of what can be learned and recalled.
- kolinko 4y ago
  It is a limit on what you can reason about without a piece of paper. I’m proficient at math, but my working memory is around 6, so I cannot add two three digit numbers to each other in my head (unless I see numbers to be added in front of me).
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    OK, but I and nearly all of my friends can, so we have duelling anecdotes here.