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If I’m paying a cleaning fee why can’t I just pay that extra 10% and do nothing? Where’s that option? You know what, the next time I stay at an Airbnb, I’m goi

by xwdv 4y ago

If I’m paying a cleaning fee why can’t I just pay that extra 10% and do nothing? Where’s that option? You know what, the next time I stay at an Airbnb, I’m going to just say I didn’t clean anything but I left an extra $20 on the counter to cover the work I didn’t do. Shouldn’t be a big deal right? That should be more than enough to cover the 15 minutes of labor I was asked to do, at a rate of like $80/hr.

sokoloff 4y ago
> Where’s that option? At the Marriott?
- xwdv 4y ago
  No, at the Marriot whether you leave things clean or dirty, it’s the same price…
throwaway472919 4y ago
You can't go to McDonalds and pay extra for table service, or less to cook the burger yourself. But you can pay more at a proper restaurant or less at the supermarket. Even if what you're offering is "fair", we can't have every business offering every service.
- xwdv 4y ago
  I just don’t understand, if they’re going to clean the apartment anyway, why should I clean anything at all? It seems like a petty power move type thing, like a way to ensure guests don’t go too crazy or something because you make them feel like they will have to clean things up.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    If the cleaners are going to be there 90 minutes, they won’t have time to load and run a full dishwasher cycle and put it away. But they’ll have enough time to put it away if you started it before you left. The other choice is they do everything, but you pay them for 2.5 hours instead of 1.5 hours. I’ve never seen a list of chores that was unreasonable, even if there was a non-null list of things for me to do, it was always reasonable.
    - xwdv 4y ago
      The owner can pay them. It’s not my problem. If they don’t set the cleaning fee accordingly that’s their fault. $150 cleaning should be enough.
  - ashwagary 4y ago
    >I just don’t understand, if they’re going to clean the apartment anyway, why should I clean anything at all? That's the problem. I suspect many amateur hosts have scaled operations to the point that they don't clean between stays and outsource that job to consumers as a shortcut, cost saving measure.
    - xwdv 4y ago
      Despicable. Let these landlords get on their hands and knees and work to maintain these airbnbs.
- 8note 4y ago
  I don't pay table or floor cleaning fees at mcdonalds
- maxerickson 4y ago
  You also don't pay extra at McDonald's to use the table. Which is probably a better comparison for the chore lists and cleaning fees than table service. I haven't really used Airbnb, but it seems pretty ridiculous that people would continue to use them if there are different, annoying to understand conditions attached to each listing. And then in some sense, a media article criticizing them is the free market.

by xwdv 4y ago

sokoloff 4y ago

> Where’s that option? At the Marriott?

xwdv 4y ago
No, at the Marriot whether you leave things clean or dirty, it’s the same price…

throwaway472919 4y ago

You can't go to McDonalds and pay extra for table service, or less to cook the burger yourself. But you can pay more at a proper restaurant or less at the supermarket. Even if what you're offering is "fair", we can't have every business offering every service.

xwdv 4y ago
I just don’t understand, if they’re going to clean the apartment anyway, why should I clean anything at all? It seems like a petty power move type thing, like a way to ensure guests don’t go too crazy or something because you make them feel like they will have to clean things up.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  If the cleaners are going to be there 90 minutes, they won’t have time to load and run a full dishwasher cycle and put it away. But they’ll have enough time to put it away if you started it before you left. The other choice is they do everything, but you pay them for 2.5 hours instead of 1.5 hours. I’ve never seen a list of chores that was unreasonable, even if there was a non-null list of things for me to do, it was always reasonable.
  - xwdv 4y ago
    The owner can pay them. It’s not my problem. If they don’t set the cleaning fee accordingly that’s their fault. $150 cleaning should be enough.
- ashwagary 4y ago
  >I just don’t understand, if they’re going to clean the apartment anyway, why should I clean anything at all? That's the problem. I suspect many amateur hosts have scaled operations to the point that they don't clean between stays and outsource that job to consumers as a shortcut, cost saving measure.
  - xwdv 4y ago
    Despicable. Let these landlords get on their hands and knees and work to maintain these airbnbs.
8note 4y ago
I don't pay table or floor cleaning fees at mcdonalds
maxerickson 4y ago
You also don't pay extra at McDonald's to use the table. Which is probably a better comparison for the chore lists and cleaning fees than table service. I haven't really used Airbnb, but it seems pretty ridiculous that people would continue to use them if there are different, annoying to understand conditions attached to each listing. And then in some sense, a media article criticizing them is the free market.