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Who here uses Haiku OS? I'm genuinely curious. In today's age where everything is web-based, I don't see how OSs are relevant anymore.

mouse_ 4y ago
> Everything is web-based Disagree > I don't see how OSs are relevant anymore. Even if I were to accept your precedent that everything is web-based (it's totally not, though Google, Microsoft and Apple may want things to be that way, it's completely disconnected from reality), that would only mean that OS competition is more important than ever. We need to trim away the fat of legacy glut such as AI assistants, built in security suites (that largely haven't done much in practice to keep people from becoming continually infected or digitally attacked), constant security and usability patches to old APIs the companies behind them are actively trying to kill (win32 for example), support for shoddy-at-best proprietary OEM drivers, both keeping them functional (something Windows and macOS has largely failed at) and secure, etc. If everything really is web-based, then it's more important than ever to trim the 20+gb of attack surface away from the majority of people's software ecosystems. My viewpoint is that Haiku is the most minimal and functional graphical desktop system that boots and runs on my modern Ryzen 5000 hardware, and I just really like the way it does things. It feels to me like a stepping stone into -a- future of functional, useful, production oriented desktop software. Also, I will go as far as to say the top-down, tight knit developer community is able to make leaps and bounds in experience in a way the Free Desktop/Linux ecosystem could only dream of. They envisioned, drafted, and shipped high DPI support in just one update (the recent Beta 4), something certain popular Linux desktops are still to this day struggling to get right. Fonts always look crisp and perfect, something Gnome still can't seem to manage; mouse input feels "correct" somehow, something I've never encountered on Linux, only on Macs and Windows machines.
- E39M5S62 4y ago
  I run Haiku on an i5-8500 with a 4k 27" screen. It's ... Wow. I prefer using that machine over my Threadripper Pro Linux workstation. Haiku is the desktop we all should have had these past years.
  - warrenm 4y ago
    ...and had Apple bought Be instead of NextSTEP, we might have had it ...though Apple would not have gotten Jobs So... there's that
E39M5S62 4y ago
I use it. It's a fantastic user experience and community.
marci 4y ago
If you replace Haiku OS with another piece of technology ... Who here uses ZFS/Thunderbird/iPhoto? I'm genuinely curious. In today's age where everything is web-based, I don't see how Filesystems/mail readers/photo managers are relevant anymore. Many apps on Haiku OS make heavy use of it's specific features like BeFS (Haiku's FS). But if all your activities reside in a web browser, then you probably don't care about those things.

mouse_ 4y ago

> Everything is web-based Disagree > I don't see how OSs are relevant anymore. Even if I were to accept your precedent that everything is web-based (it's totally not, though Google, Microsoft and Apple may want things to be that way, it's completely disconnected from reality), that would only mean that OS competition is more important than ever. We need to trim away the fat of legacy glut such as AI assistants, built in security suites (that largely haven't done much in practice to keep people from becoming continually infected or digitally attacked), constant security and usability patches to old APIs the companies behind them are actively trying to kill (win32 for example), support for shoddy-at-best proprietary OEM drivers, both keeping them functional (something Windows and macOS has largely failed at) and secure, etc. If everything really is web-based, then it's more important than ever to trim the 20+gb of attack surface away from the majority of people's software ecosystems. My viewpoint is that Haiku is the most minimal and functional graphical desktop system that boots and runs on my modern Ryzen 5000 hardware, and I just really like the way it does things. It feels to me like a stepping stone into -a- future of functional, useful, production oriented desktop software. Also, I will go as far as to say the top-down, tight knit developer community is able to make leaps and bounds in experience in a way the Free Desktop/Linux ecosystem could only dream of. They envisioned, drafted, and shipped high DPI support in just one update (the recent Beta 4), something certain popular Linux desktops are still to this day struggling to get right. Fonts always look crisp and perfect, something Gnome still can't seem to manage; mouse input feels "correct" somehow, something I've never encountered on Linux, only on Macs and Windows machines.

E39M5S62 4y ago
I run Haiku on an i5-8500 with a 4k 27" screen. It's ... Wow. I prefer using that machine over my Threadripper Pro Linux workstation. Haiku is the desktop we all should have had these past years.
- warrenm 4y ago
  ...and had Apple bought Be instead of NextSTEP, we might have had it ...though Apple would not have gotten Jobs So... there's that

E39M5S62 4y ago

I use it. It's a fantastic user experience and community.

marci 4y ago

If you replace Haiku OS with another piece of technology ... Who here uses ZFS/Thunderbird/iPhoto? I'm genuinely curious. In today's age where everything is web-based, I don't see how Filesystems/mail readers/photo managers are relevant anymore. Many apps on Haiku OS make heavy use of it's specific features like BeFS (Haiku's FS). But if all your activities reside in a web browser, then you probably don't care about those things.