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I wonder what the aversion is to using a plain old server / vps. It's really not that difficult to deploy nowadays [0][1][2][3] and I'd rather get an $8 bill ev

I wonder what the aversion is to using a plain old server / vps. It's really not that difficult to deploy nowadays [0][1][2][3] and I'd rather get an $8 bill every month as insurance than ever worry about shit like OP just went through. It'll probably be more performant anyway due to cold starts and "edge" still having to hit us-east-1 for data.. cache your static files with Cloud Flare/Front. People are always surprised by how much traffic a single VPS can take[4] and believe it all has to be serverless to be web scale. I believe HN still runs on a single core or something. There's a ton of places to get cloud credits as well, too many to link, so just Bing™ it [0] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/api/v2/docs/aws-cdk-lib.aws_ecs_patterns.ApplicationLoadBalancedFargateService.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cdk/api/v2/docs/aws-cdk-lib.aws_... [1] https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ [2] https://cloud.google.com/run https://cloud.google.com/run [3] https://render.com/ https://render.com/ [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34676186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34676186

underdown 4y ago
Vercel is sooo easy. Hook it to a repo and you’re done. It’s also cheap depending on use case. Edge functions are nice. Zero complaints from me as a customer for a little over a year. I work with a small crew and having no server maintenance lets us ship more code. Really as simple as that.
- ricardobeat 4y ago
  The options mentioned do not require server maintenance. They are not VPSes though, and do not cost $8/month...
  - josevalerio 4y ago
    You're right I used the term interchangeably - AWS Lightsail would have been a good service comparison, and those do start at $3.50[0]. The $8 figure came from running the smallest Fargate task at .25cpu and 512mb, excluding the load balancer etc. [1] It was announced that App Runner (today) allowed for smaller instances[2], and the price/mo for this instance would basically be 1/4th of the previous default. So ~$14 [3] [0] https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/ [1] https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=42b33d2f26786ac08a3610a09447c44e7fd43961 https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=42b33d2f26786ac08a3610a... [2] https://twitter.com/danilop/status/1643968804727271425?s=20 https://twitter.com/danilop/status/1643968804727271425?s=20 [3] https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=a46d5f15ed9c079131c6a73188996db890579cff https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=a46d5f15ed9c079131c6a73...
- josevalerio 4y ago
  Took me less than 1 min to setup NextJS on AWS App Runner with auto deploys on commits, the rest was waiting for it to finish which I'll admit, Vercel is much faster at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmbgATze8UU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmbgATze8UU
recroad 3y ago
Did it for 10 years for a fairly large site. Biggest mistake ever. The security maintenance alone was a nightmare. Maybe for some hobby projects but not for stuff that needs to stay up, and lets me focus on solving customer problems.
anthlax 3y ago
Bursty workloads? I.e people use my app from 9am - 11am and then nothing for the rest of the day. I’m paying $8 but only around $2 of compute is actually helpful. Setting spend limits on lambda / vercel / cloudfns means the entire $8 go to my bursty workload

underdown 4y ago

Vercel is sooo easy. Hook it to a repo and you’re done. It’s also cheap depending on use case. Edge functions are nice. Zero complaints from me as a customer for a little over a year. I work with a small crew and having no server maintenance lets us ship more code. Really as simple as that.

ricardobeat 4y ago
The options mentioned do not require server maintenance. They are not VPSes though, and do not cost $8/month...
- josevalerio 4y ago
  You're right I used the term interchangeably - AWS Lightsail would have been a good service comparison, and those do start at $3.50[0]. The $8 figure came from running the smallest Fargate task at .25cpu and 512mb, excluding the load balancer etc. [1] It was announced that App Runner (today) allowed for smaller instances[2], and the price/mo for this instance would basically be 1/4th of the previous default. So ~$14 [3] [0] https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/ [1] https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=42b33d2f26786ac08a3610a09447c44e7fd43961 https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=42b33d2f26786ac08a3610a... [2] https://twitter.com/danilop/status/1643968804727271425?s=20 https://twitter.com/danilop/status/1643968804727271425?s=20 [3] https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=a46d5f15ed9c079131c6a73188996db890579cff https://calculator.aws/#/estimate?id=a46d5f15ed9c079131c6a73...
josevalerio 4y ago
Took me less than 1 min to setup NextJS on AWS App Runner with auto deploys on commits, the rest was waiting for it to finish which I'll admit, Vercel is much faster at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmbgATze8UU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmbgATze8UU

recroad 3y ago

Did it for 10 years for a fairly large site. Biggest mistake ever. The security maintenance alone was a nightmare. Maybe for some hobby projects but not for stuff that needs to stay up, and lets me focus on solving customer problems.

anthlax 3y ago

Bursty workloads? I.e people use my app from 9am - 11am and then nothing for the rest of the day. I’m paying $8 but only around $2 of compute is actually helpful. Setting spend limits on lambda / vercel / cloudfns means the entire $8 go to my bursty workload