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That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent

That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent home to keep non-insane people safe!

extasia 4y ago
Would you count smokers and obese people as also "insane"? Those are also two massive predictors of (all cause) mortality.
- mrkeen 4y ago
  Smokers and the obese are largely based in reality. The smokers aren't linking nicotine patches to government microchip implants, and the obese aren't staying fat to try to block out the 5G signals.
  - pfannkuchen 4y ago
    Have you considered that some of the crazy sounding people might be intentionally associating crazy ideas with a counter establishment movement? So that the movement is discredited by association. The establishment has a clear incentive to do this, I would be kind of surprised if they were so pure as to abstain from it. Sure, some gullible people actually go along with the crazy, but I think those are likely a small minority of the counter establishment movements by people count. The transitive negative social vibes of the crazy ideas makes non-crazy people reluctant to discuss such counter establishment movements in public. E.g. perfectly rational reasons to be cautious about a new vaccine platform are drowned out by and associated with crazy ideas about microchips and 5G, like you say.
    - fwungy 4y ago
      It's called " well poisoning". You take a plausible idea and make it implausible by adding something crazy. It is entirely rational to question whether you want to take an experimental medication ( odds are you shouldn't), so to discredit people with entirely rational questions about the safety the wildest voices were cultivated, the ones saying that it was 5G activated or magnetic.
  - extasia 4y ago
    That's a pretty prejudiced way to view people who decided not to get vaccinated. Have you met people who espouse those conspiratorial beliefs in real life?
    - mrkeen 3y ago
      I've only met one person I could consider an antivaxer. We found out she possibly didn't give her second child the usual childhood shots because her first child cried a lot from them.
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  They can be pretty seriously in denial, trying to pretend it's not a problem because it's too hard to do something about.
brianjking 4y ago
I'm not ignoring it as I have eyes and can read and understand information. The lack of critical thinking in this country is astounding.
- techisneat 4y ago
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- hitpointdrew 4y ago
  'It's Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled' It's so sad how many "smart" people STILL believe that mRNA coivd vaccines are SaFe AnD EfEcTiVe. It is quite clear from studies and evidence they they are most certainly neither safe or effective.
hitpointdrew 4y ago
> I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, or if you're completely delusional. But either way this statement is patently false.

That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent home to keep non-insane people safe!

extasia 4y ago

Would you count smokers and obese people as also "insane"? Those are also two massive predictors of (all cause) mortality.

mrkeen 4y ago
Smokers and the obese are largely based in reality. The smokers aren't linking nicotine patches to government microchip implants, and the obese aren't staying fat to try to block out the 5G signals.
- pfannkuchen 4y ago
  Have you considered that some of the crazy sounding people might be intentionally associating crazy ideas with a counter establishment movement? So that the movement is discredited by association. The establishment has a clear incentive to do this, I would be kind of surprised if they were so pure as to abstain from it. Sure, some gullible people actually go along with the crazy, but I think those are likely a small minority of the counter establishment movements by people count. The transitive negative social vibes of the crazy ideas makes non-crazy people reluctant to discuss such counter establishment movements in public. E.g. perfectly rational reasons to be cautious about a new vaccine platform are drowned out by and associated with crazy ideas about microchips and 5G, like you say.
  - fwungy 4y ago
    It's called " well poisoning". You take a plausible idea and make it implausible by adding something crazy. It is entirely rational to question whether you want to take an experimental medication ( odds are you shouldn't), so to discredit people with entirely rational questions about the safety the wildest voices were cultivated, the ones saying that it was 5G activated or magnetic.
- extasia 4y ago
  That's a pretty prejudiced way to view people who decided not to get vaccinated. Have you met people who espouse those conspiratorial beliefs in real life?
  - mrkeen 3y ago
    I've only met one person I could consider an antivaxer. We found out she possibly didn't give her second child the usual childhood shots because her first child cried a lot from them.
LorenPechtel 4y ago
They can be pretty seriously in denial, trying to pretend it's not a problem because it's too hard to do something about.

brianjking 4y ago

I'm not ignoring it as I have eyes and can read and understand information. The lack of critical thinking in this country is astounding.

techisneat 4y ago
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hitpointdrew 4y ago
'It's Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled' It's so sad how many "smart" people STILL believe that mRNA coivd vaccines are SaFe AnD EfEcTiVe. It is quite clear from studies and evidence they they are most certainly neither safe or effective.

hitpointdrew 4y ago

> I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, or if you're completely delusional. But either way this statement is patently false.