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The car doesn’t have an “on” and “off”. There is no switch. The car specifically has Sentry mode for recording continuously while parked. There’s a very detail

by zaroth 4y ago

The car doesn’t have an “on” and “off”. There is no switch. The car specifically has Sentry mode for recording continuously while parked. There’s a very detailed Data Sharing settings right in the UI where you turn on or off sharing any clips with Tesla, and you have to click Yes for the car to share these clips.

bjacobel 4y ago
Let's allow for a minute that the existence of the privacy-intruding footage is, as you insinuate, the user's fault. Is it also their fault that it was shared for entertainment and turned into memes?
- zaroth 4y ago
  I’m saying the car owner opted-in to send the footage to Tesla. It’s not a matter of fault, they chose to share their video clips. The fact that the humans doing the labeling are “entertained” by certain clips… how could they not be? Imagine what that job is like for a minute. Take this ProPublica report about Facebook hiring thousands of contractors to read through private WhatsApp messages for instance. [1] Did users in that case opt-in for their messages to be read? No, in fact Zuck went on the record saying they never see them. But turns out when another user on the chat flags messages as spam or abuse, or an algorithm scans it and decides it could be illegal, they do look, and even report it to authorities. Going back to Tesla, the article says video clips were allegedly shared on an internal chat between the labelers. How is this in any way surprising? The job is to draw bounding boxes around objects in an endless list of videos. Short of implementing some sort of mind control a la the show “Severance”, how could we possibly expect that the employees who do the labeling all day not talk and joke about the strange or scandalous things that they came across? [1] - https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-privacy-protections-for-its-2-billion-whatsapp-users https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-p...

by zaroth 4y ago

bjacobel 4y ago

Let's allow for a minute that the existence of the privacy-intruding footage is, as you insinuate, the user's fault. Is it also their fault that it was shared for entertainment and turned into memes?

zaroth 4y ago
I’m saying the car owner opted-in to send the footage to Tesla. It’s not a matter of fault, they chose to share their video clips. The fact that the humans doing the labeling are “entertained” by certain clips… how could they not be? Imagine what that job is like for a minute. Take this ProPublica report about Facebook hiring thousands of contractors to read through private WhatsApp messages for instance. [1] Did users in that case opt-in for their messages to be read? No, in fact Zuck went on the record saying they never see them. But turns out when another user on the chat flags messages as spam or abuse, or an algorithm scans it and decides it could be illegal, they do look, and even report it to authorities. Going back to Tesla, the article says video clips were allegedly shared on an internal chat between the labelers. How is this in any way surprising? The job is to draw bounding boxes around objects in an endless list of videos. Short of implementing some sort of mind control a la the show “Severance”, how could we possibly expect that the employees who do the labeling all day not talk and joke about the strange or scandalous things that they came across? [1] - https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-privacy-protections-for-its-2-billion-whatsapp-users https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-p...