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It's interesting that you mention that "it breaks the web with a non-standard behavior". Anytime I have to scroll horizontally in a browser, it feels awkward a

by helipad 15y ago

It's interesting that you mention that "it breaks the web with a non-standard behavior". Anytime I have to scroll horizontally in a browser, it feels awkward and non-standard (especially if I have to scroll horizontal AND vertical). Whilst it's just my preference, I'd sooner not have any web pages scroll horizontally.

blindhippo 15y ago
Horizontal scrolling is a pain in the rear and I hope most web developers stay away from it entirely. I can't think of any good reason any web page should ever scroll unless your monitor is smaller then 1024px.
- secoif 15y ago
  > I can't think of any good reason any web page should ever scroll… They give you a very good reason why the webpage should horizontally scroll: task boards. I've implemented and used task boards before and hit this exact same issue. Horizontal scrolling is only really an issue for those users who don't have a decent device for horizontal scrolling. On trackpads and the Magic/Mighty mouses, horizontal scrolling is very natural.
  - vacri 15y ago
    This is a much underrated point - side-swiping fingers is easier than vertical-swiping them.
  - blindhippo 15y ago
    What is a "task board"? "Horizontal scrolling is only really an issue for those users who don't have a decent device for horizontal scrolling" Then why are you developing applications that likely an issue for most people?
tomelders 15y ago
I'm a big fan of sideways scrolling in the right places. Apples own product nav on the website would be a great place for two fingered sideways scrolling to be implemented. For reference: http://www.apple.com/mac/ http://www.apple.com/mac/
- ConstantineXVI 15y ago
  That pane did have horizontal scrolling at one point; think they changed it ~ Lion release (since no more scrollbars)
  - tomelders 15y ago
    It didn't work with swipe gestures as I recall. I remember because I was looking for a good side-scrolling implementation that used swiping about 2 years ago and thought that might have it. Not that it matters, I'm just clarifying.
dsr_ 15y ago
I'm OK with either vertical or horizontal scrolling -- but not both at the same time. Everyone in my company has a minimum of a 1920x1080 screen, and most have more than one or something even larger. We should not have to scroll in more than one direction, and a layout that makes that happen is ugly. (I also agree that mapping forward/backward to the horizontal scroll is worse than ugly: it breaks user expectations by being inconsistent.)
dmethvin 15y ago
On a touch device, side-scrolling feels very natural. The problem is that Apple is trying to create a consistent set of rules for devices that are inconsistent (with very good reasons) in their UI designs. A touchpad is not the same as a touchscreen.

by helipad 15y ago

blindhippo 15y ago

Horizontal scrolling is a pain in the rear and I hope most web developers stay away from it entirely. I can't think of any good reason any web page should ever scroll unless your monitor is smaller then 1024px.

secoif 15y ago
> I can't think of any good reason any web page should ever scroll… They give you a very good reason why the webpage should horizontally scroll: task boards. I've implemented and used task boards before and hit this exact same issue. Horizontal scrolling is only really an issue for those users who don't have a decent device for horizontal scrolling. On trackpads and the Magic/Mighty mouses, horizontal scrolling is very natural.
- vacri 15y ago
  This is a much underrated point - side-swiping fingers is easier than vertical-swiping them.
- blindhippo 15y ago
  What is a "task board"? "Horizontal scrolling is only really an issue for those users who don't have a decent device for horizontal scrolling" Then why are you developing applications that likely an issue for most people?

tomelders 15y ago

I'm a big fan of sideways scrolling in the right places. Apples own product nav on the website would be a great place for two fingered sideways scrolling to be implemented. For reference: http://www.apple.com/mac/ http://www.apple.com/mac/

ConstantineXVI 15y ago
That pane did have horizontal scrolling at one point; think they changed it ~ Lion release (since no more scrollbars)
- tomelders 15y ago
  It didn't work with swipe gestures as I recall. I remember because I was looking for a good side-scrolling implementation that used swiping about 2 years ago and thought that might have it. Not that it matters, I'm just clarifying.

dsr_ 15y ago

I'm OK with either vertical or horizontal scrolling -- but not both at the same time. Everyone in my company has a minimum of a 1920x1080 screen, and most have more than one or something even larger. We should not have to scroll in more than one direction, and a layout that makes that happen is ugly. (I also agree that mapping forward/backward to the horizontal scroll is worse than ugly: it breaks user expectations by being inconsistent.)

dmethvin 15y ago

On a touch device, side-scrolling feels very natural. The problem is that Apple is trying to create a consistent set of rules for devices that are inconsistent (with very good reasons) in their UI designs. A touchpad is not the same as a touchscreen.