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A year ago Russia had very strong words for Polish transfers for Soviet-era Mig29's being transferred to Ukraine and the idea was scrapped. Interesting to see

A year ago Russia had very strong words for Polish transfers for Soviet-era Mig29's being transferred to Ukraine and the idea was scrapped. Interesting to see how much has changed over the course of a year (I'm sure they're still not happy about it).

trasz3 4y ago
A year ago Russia was still widely considered to be a great military power.
simion314 4y ago
They are not happy but they are not showing it, they put a face that the weapons civilized world delivers to Ukraine will make no difference. Surprisingly the Zeds claimed now that Finland entering NATO is not a big deal, when we Easter Europe we remember Putin and his dogs threats about entering NATO or NATO bases. There is no diplomatic talent in that country politicians.
- yks 4y ago
  People in power in Russia are gopnicks with prison values and behavior, and so is their diplomacy, when looking crazy tough and dangerous is a primal objective. Alas it works on the more civilized folks who take it at face value and try to make a deal when they don't even have to.
rasz 4y ago
What do you mean scrapped? Poland transferred 4 MIGs last year. Meme circulating at the time: "Polskie MiG-i nie trafią na Ukrainę. Ponadto Polska nie ma żadnych Mig-ów. Nie wiemy, skąd Ukraina ma MiG-i. Pragniemy zauważyć, że MiG-ów jest bardzo wiele i można je kupić w dowolnym sklepie z MiG-ami, na przykład na terenie Federacji Rosyjskiej." "Polish MiGs will not go to Ukraine. Moreover, Poland does not own any Migs. We do not know where Ukraine got the MiGs from. We would like to emphasize that MiGs are plentiful and can be bought in any MiG shop, for example, in the Russian Federation." and just yesterday pledged 4 more right away with another 6 being prepared, 14 total. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/duda-poland-transfers-mig-29-145136325.html https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/duda-poland-transfers-mig-29... rofl at yahoo publishing this in lifestyle section, 'sending fighter jets to help kill russians is just a lifestyle choice in Poland yo'
- greedo 4y ago
  The initial plan was in the spring of 2022. That plan was scrapped/put on hold until the recent transfer.
YeBanKo 4y ago
Iirc the offer was that Poland gives Migs to Ukraine and to replenish the missing jets, the US would give either F-16 or F-22 to Poland. It was scrapped because the White House, not Russian words.

trasz3 4y ago

A year ago Russia was still widely considered to be a great military power.

simion314 4y ago

They are not happy but they are not showing it, they put a face that the weapons civilized world delivers to Ukraine will make no difference. Surprisingly the Zeds claimed now that Finland entering NATO is not a big deal, when we Easter Europe we remember Putin and his dogs threats about entering NATO or NATO bases. There is no diplomatic talent in that country politicians.

yks 4y ago
People in power in Russia are gopnicks with prison values and behavior, and so is their diplomacy, when looking crazy tough and dangerous is a primal objective. Alas it works on the more civilized folks who take it at face value and try to make a deal when they don't even have to.

rasz 4y ago

What do you mean scrapped? Poland transferred 4 MIGs last year. Meme circulating at the time: "Polskie MiG-i nie trafią na Ukrainę. Ponadto Polska nie ma żadnych Mig-ów. Nie wiemy, skąd Ukraina ma MiG-i. Pragniemy zauważyć, że MiG-ów jest bardzo wiele i można je kupić w dowolnym sklepie z MiG-ami, na przykład na terenie Federacji Rosyjskiej." "Polish MiGs will not go to Ukraine. Moreover, Poland does not own any Migs. We do not know where Ukraine got the MiGs from. We would like to emphasize that MiGs are plentiful and can be bought in any MiG shop, for example, in the Russian Federation." and just yesterday pledged 4 more right away with another 6 being prepared, 14 total. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/duda-poland-transfers-mig-29-145136325.html https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/duda-poland-transfers-mig-29... rofl at yahoo publishing this in lifestyle section, 'sending fighter jets to help kill russians is just a lifestyle choice in Poland yo'

greedo 4y ago
The initial plan was in the spring of 2022. That plan was scrapped/put on hold until the recent transfer.

YeBanKo 4y ago

Iirc the offer was that Poland gives Migs to Ukraine and to replenish the missing jets, the US would give either F-16 or F-22 to Poland. It was scrapped because the White House, not Russian words.