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Only if you don't put a value on work happiness. And that might be fine. A spouse that doesn't have to work, kids, decent car that isn't always breaking down, v

by zamnos 4y ago

Only if you don't put a value on work happiness. And that might be fine. A spouse that doesn't have to work, kids, decent car that isn't always breaking down, vacation one or twice a year. We should all be so happy. But if your job is shit, your boss is shit, your coworkers are shit. Is it all really worth it? That's a personal question, with a personal answer, but some have done the calculus and chosen differently.

notch898a 4y ago
Well at some point it doesn't matter if it's worth it. Going from lots of money to not much is a recipe for divorce. Of course if you're divorced for any reason, the judge will impute your income at what he thinks you can make. So you'll be paying child support and alimony based on the "job is shit" high rate job and utterly fucked if you don't work it. You better be damned sure you're willing to work the "job is shit" job forever once you take it; the judge will make sure of that.
- hkatx 4y ago
  According to my state AG website, after Loss of employment/change in job income the paying spouse can request for review of spousal support. (I don't have the stats for how often it is granted)
blacksmith_tb 4y ago
Sure, but can't any job be bad or good along those lines? Everyone would prefer to work for a good manager/boss, have decent coworkers, etc. - I don't think the likelihood of that is worse in construction than software dev? To me the obvious difference is that work in the trades is physically hard on you - that's doable in your 20s and 30s, but later on, not so much...
- Teever 4y ago
  > Everyone would prefer to work for a good manager/boss, have decent coworkers, etc. - I don't think the likelihood of that is worse in construction than software dev? I've seen a front end loader operator drive up to the ditch, hop out of his vehicle and then proceed to kick gravel into the face of a person who was climbing out of the ditch on a ladder while the foreman and the site super who happened to be there laughed. If you've never worked in construction you can't appreciate that it's a whole other world man.
throwaway22032 4y ago
We're talking about different things here. I am simply claiming that any real job (e.g. not a training wheels job for teenagers) that does not pay enough for a decent life _should_ have shortages.

by zamnos 4y ago

notch898a 4y ago

Well at some point it doesn't matter if it's worth it. Going from lots of money to not much is a recipe for divorce. Of course if you're divorced for any reason, the judge will impute your income at what he thinks you can make. So you'll be paying child support and alimony based on the "job is shit" high rate job and utterly fucked if you don't work it. You better be damned sure you're willing to work the "job is shit" job forever once you take it; the judge will make sure of that.

hkatx 4y ago
According to my state AG website, after Loss of employment/change in job income the paying spouse can request for review of spousal support. (I don't have the stats for how often it is granted)

blacksmith_tb 4y ago

Sure, but can't any job be bad or good along those lines? Everyone would prefer to work for a good manager/boss, have decent coworkers, etc. - I don't think the likelihood of that is worse in construction than software dev? To me the obvious difference is that work in the trades is physically hard on you - that's doable in your 20s and 30s, but later on, not so much...

Teever 4y ago
> Everyone would prefer to work for a good manager/boss, have decent coworkers, etc. - I don't think the likelihood of that is worse in construction than software dev? I've seen a front end loader operator drive up to the ditch, hop out of his vehicle and then proceed to kick gravel into the face of a person who was climbing out of the ditch on a ladder while the foreman and the site super who happened to be there laughed. If you've never worked in construction you can't appreciate that it's a whole other world man.

throwaway22032 4y ago

We're talking about different things here. I am simply claiming that any real job (e.g. not a training wheels job for teenagers) that does not pay enough for a decent life _should_ have shortages.