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The EU has a higher GDP than the US (albeit they're very close). A lot of strong engineering comes out of Europe, for example Arm or the self-driving work by Me

The EU has a higher GDP than the US (albeit they're very close). A lot of strong engineering comes out of Europe, for example Arm or the self-driving work by Mercedes.

areyousure 4y ago
(I did not downvote the parent comment.) > The EU has a higher GDP than the US (albeit they're very close). In case anyone was curious, the IMF currently believes that the US's GDP is 50% higher than the EU's = 40% higher per capita. https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/EU https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/EU https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/USA https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/USA
- robopsychology 4y ago
  You're right per capita, but as a total market the EU is larger.
  - pb7 4y ago
    It's literally not though. EU has a higher population and lower total GDP.
    - robopsychology 4y ago
      You’re right, I was looking at 2015 data
pb7 4y ago
US GDP per capita: $75K (PPP), $75K (nominal) EU GDP per capita: $54K (PPP), $37K (nominal) It's not even close. Waymo is years ahead of anything coming out of Mercedes.
- robopsychology 4y ago
  Which cars can you buy with Level 3 self-driving in the US? What states allow Waymo Level 3+ driving? Yes I can get around the SF Finance District if I sign up to be a beta tester with Waymo, and they do run in Pheonix, but Mercedes has full Level 3 signed off in Nevada. In fact Mercedes have said they will take ownership of self-driving accidents while Tesla for example points it to the individual driving.
  - pb7 4y ago
    We're talking about the engineering capability, not how the product is monetized. If a company had flawless L5 but it was exclusive to millionaires driving cross-continent, it would be impressive engineering albeit a niche business. >Mercedes has full Level 3 signed off in Nevada I wonder why they're testing in Nevada and not the EU. Could it be that the EU stifles innovation with its strict laws?
    - robopsychology 4y ago
      Or maybe it was actually started to roll out in Summer last year in the EU? Mercedes Level 3 cars expected to be priced at $50k, competitive with Tesla. https://etsc.eu/europes-first-cars-with-level-3-automated-driving-go-on-sale-in-germany/ https://etsc.eu/europes-first-cars-with-level-3-automated-dr...

The EU has a higher GDP than the US (albeit they're very close). A lot of strong engineering comes out of Europe, for example Arm or the self-driving work by Mercedes.

areyousure 4y ago

(I did not downvote the parent comment.) > The EU has a higher GDP than the US (albeit they're very close). In case anyone was curious, the IMF currently believes that the US's GDP is 50% higher than the EU's = 40% higher per capita. https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/EU https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/EU https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/USA https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/USA

robopsychology 4y ago
You're right per capita, but as a total market the EU is larger.
- pb7 4y ago
  It's literally not though. EU has a higher population and lower total GDP.
  - robopsychology 4y ago
    You’re right, I was looking at 2015 data

pb7 4y ago

US GDP per capita: $75K (PPP), $75K (nominal) EU GDP per capita: $54K (PPP), $37K (nominal) It's not even close. Waymo is years ahead of anything coming out of Mercedes.

robopsychology 4y ago
Which cars can you buy with Level 3 self-driving in the US? What states allow Waymo Level 3+ driving? Yes I can get around the SF Finance District if I sign up to be a beta tester with Waymo, and they do run in Pheonix, but Mercedes has full Level 3 signed off in Nevada. In fact Mercedes have said they will take ownership of self-driving accidents while Tesla for example points it to the individual driving.
- pb7 4y ago
  We're talking about the engineering capability, not how the product is monetized. If a company had flawless L5 but it was exclusive to millionaires driving cross-continent, it would be impressive engineering albeit a niche business. >Mercedes has full Level 3 signed off in Nevada I wonder why they're testing in Nevada and not the EU. Could it be that the EU stifles innovation with its strict laws?
  - robopsychology 4y ago
    Or maybe it was actually started to roll out in Summer last year in the EU? Mercedes Level 3 cars expected to be priced at $50k, competitive with Tesla. https://etsc.eu/europes-first-cars-with-level-3-automated-driving-go-on-sale-in-germany/ https://etsc.eu/europes-first-cars-with-level-3-automated-dr...