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I think the problem already existed, but ChatGPT made it worse. Under most circumstances you cannot sue a newspaper for what they publish. But what they publi

I think the problem already existed, but ChatGPT made it worse. Under most circumstances you cannot sue a newspaper for what they publish. But what they publish used to be fact-checked to a certain extend, and actually believed to be correct at the time of publishing. So if I'm arrested because my IP showed up in some hack, they can publish that. Unfortunately they have no obligation to publish a follow up that all charges have been dropped because someone fat-fingered the request to the ISP and missed it by a digit. So that would be on the internet forever. Now with ChatGPT is worse. At least with the first one if someone asks I can objectively show that whatever happened was a mistake, and I have the documents to show it. ChatGPT printing something makes me unable to come up with even counter proof.

pjc50 4y ago
> Under most circumstances you cannot sue a newspaper for what they publish. Jurisdiction-dependent, and the US is an outlier here. In the UK newspapers have to be fairly careful about libel, and this has a "chilling effect" on what gets published.
- int_19h 4y ago
  UK is an outlier in the other direction, though. And it's not really true that you can't sue a newspaper for libel. It all depends on how exactly it was worded, but if the newspaper presents something as fact (rather than an opinion etc), it could easily find itself in trouble.
- WirelessGigabit 4y ago
  I'm surprised. With those rules in place how is it that The Sun hadn't been sued into damnation?
  - pjc50 4y ago
    They do get sued, and they're very practiced at skirting the line. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54779430 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54779430 There was a particularly grim time in the 80s/90s when papers were sued for printing accurate stores and lost due to perjury. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken / https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1987/jul/25/archer.politics https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1987/jul/25/archer.politics Note that you can print smears about groups very easily, it's just specific individuals that can sue.

pjc50 4y ago

> Under most circumstances you cannot sue a newspaper for what they publish. Jurisdiction-dependent, and the US is an outlier here. In the UK newspapers have to be fairly careful about libel, and this has a "chilling effect" on what gets published.

int_19h 4y ago
UK is an outlier in the other direction, though. And it's not really true that you can't sue a newspaper for libel. It all depends on how exactly it was worded, but if the newspaper presents something as fact (rather than an opinion etc), it could easily find itself in trouble.
WirelessGigabit 4y ago
I'm surprised. With those rules in place how is it that The Sun hadn't been sued into damnation?
- pjc50 4y ago
  They do get sued, and they're very practiced at skirting the line. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54779430 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54779430 There was a particularly grim time in the 80s/90s when papers were sued for printing accurate stores and lost due to perjury. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken / https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1987/jul/25/archer.politics https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1987/jul/25/archer.politics Note that you can print smears about groups very easily, it's just specific individuals that can sue.