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Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe
- geoffw8 15y agoCool. I hope it doesn't turn into an OpenCoffee mirror/spam board for events/etc. Bookmarked :)
- moondowner 15y agoBookmarked and registered in.
- LoneWolf 15y agoBookmarked, lets see if it goes well. One advice, give the page some border on the sides, its pretty bad at least for me to have to look to the edge of the monitor.
- Udo 15y agoLet me start off by saying that this is a great idea, and maybe we do need more HN-like sites as HN currently has a usefulness monopoly as far as my news browsing habits are concerned. On a more constructive note: please implement an RSS feed.
- jsilence 15y agoYes, RSS feed please. Pretty please. pleeeez!
- jsilence 15y agoDownvote for supporting a feature request? srsly?
- simonbrown 15y agoDownvote for a me-too post, probably.
- jsilence 15y agoInterresting, since a similar 'me-too' comment yielded five upvotes just three days ago. Yeah, maybe I'll have to add more insight as to why i'm me-too-ing the parent post. With a link. http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/rss_is_dying_and_you_should_be_very_worried http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/rss_is_dying_and_you_should_...
- pmorong 15y agoDownvote for being a dickhead. Not that this stops pg, of course. He loves incompetent morons like yourself. Apply to YC today!
- tfb 15y agoPardon me for taking the bait, but what are you so mad at pg for? Clearly you've taken some kind of interaction with YC and/or pg personally.
- pmorong 15y agoNo worries about taking the bait. My comments will be removed soon enough which will make yours either incomprehensible or invisible, depending on how the Stasi decides to remove them. Regardless, you should be blameless. To answer your question: I have had multiple personal interactions with pg. I think that everyone who has spoken with him in the same context as I (essentially peers: similar social status, not looking for funding, etc.) will agree to the first two of my characterizations: - egotist - passive-aggressive They may or may not agree with my third, depending (in my opinion) on their empathy for other human beings (including and especially in this case) disaffected geeks: - snake-oil salesman I am offended as a human being that he exploits his goodwill to resell extant hopes and dreams for his own personal profit.
- jsilence 15y agoPlease don't feed the troll. I don't know this person. Never interacted.
- rayhano 15y agoYour wish has been granted by the genius that is Elias (@8bitpal) http://hackful.com/posts/90 http://hackful.com/posts/90
- elisee 15y agoI can't do without an RSS feed either. Hacker News has the top spot on my iGoogle page and if I can't put Hackful next to it, I'll probably forget about it real soon.
- lewisflude 15y agoWoo! Silicon Roundabout. :)
- zalew 15y agostick-shift recommended
- ahy1 15y agoA Hacker News for Europe would be great. A lot of the stories on HN are very USA-centric. Currently it looks like Hackful focuses on the UK, especially London. Lets hope it expands to cover all of Europe.
- rayhano 15y agoThat's the hope - come on European Hackers, get posting, commenting and upvoting
- LoneWolf 15y agoEven though I am a fan of Hacker News I have the same feel that it is mostly USA centric. Sometimes after reading some articles I wonder how things are in Europe, similar or not, etc. Hopefully it can become not a replacement but a complement for the european hackers.
- antr 15y agoThis is a great initiative. Will follow for sure
- mike-cardwell 15y agoWhat is on-topic on this board?
- tudorw 15y agoEurope centric I think ?
- lignuist 15y agoI'm missing an "about" section.
- skrebbel 15y agoI doubt it'll work. HN doesn't work just because it's there, it works because it has a certain traction among a certain community. Building up such traction is very difficult, and I doubt doing so by adding a link to it from a non-Europe-focused site is going to help much. Lamernews looked real cool the first 2 weeks as well, and then it mostly died out. How will Hackful be different? I mean, I'd love it to be different, I'd love a site about hacker culture more focused on European issues, people and businesses. But I can't see why it'll work.
- prateekdayal 15y agoHackerStreet India has been doing ok for the last one year since launch - http://hackerstreet.in/ http://hackerstreet.in/ The objective was never to become the next Hacker News or replace it but just to have India centric discussions there. I would say Hackful has an equally good (or better) chance
- ma2rten 15y agoI don't know. The thing is, a German person does not have a lot in common with an Irish person. They have a different culture, different media, a different language, different pop idols. If you are at some place in the Netherlands, it's more expensive to go to some other place in Belgium than to go to another place in the Netherlands, even if those are equally far away. I guess what I am trying to say is, Europe is still not a single country, but just an almost random collection of countries that happen to be geographically close to each other. And even though, that should not matter in this globalized world, it does. So, I don't know if there is a point, to have a Europe centric discussion platform, as opposed to having one for each country.
- dantheman0207 15y agoI'm in the Netherlands right now, and it is not more expensive for me to go to Belgium. In fact, I don't even need my passport - just my ID(which I'm legally required to have anywhere in the Netherlands also).
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- ortatherox 15y agoWill the source be available on github for pull requests?
- 8bitpal 15y agoYes, very soon.
- axx 15y agoNice! :)
- davidcollantes 15y agoWhat is the stack behind it?
- FLX 15y agoWhere would we be able to get notified about this?
- sktrdie 15y agoBad idea. HN is an international effort. No need to contextualize it by continent. After all, we exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias...
- user24 15y agoThe domain was registered 2 days ago, so great job in launching early. You really need a strategy to keep people coming, but all I can say is good luck, have an upvote.
- newandimproved 15y agoA quick but of advice: give the site some personality - visually, I mean. It will make a difference. People will respond to it better and respect it more. If it looks like an HN clone, that's how people will treat it. Differentiate.
- perfunctory 15y agoI actually quite like the look.
- rayhano 15y agoIt's coming... only a day old so far :)
- tudorw 15y agonice, but can you fix editing comments please :)
- rayhano 15y agoFixed :)
- ekianjo 15y agoI'd be more interested by a HN Asia or something. I mean, political, technological issues in US and EU are different but not that much, after all. Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, India, etc... lots of stuff is happening there and nothing much comes to the surface.
- subnetvj 15y agoright! I live in India, and though I do tend to get updates about local startups irregularly, I am still not aware of any good HN like site which keeps me up to date with all the latest activities in Indian startup world.
- eitally 15y agohttp://hackerstreet.in/ http://hackerstreet.in/ (Originally http://hackernews.in http://hackernews.in, but renamed as a result of this discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1913014 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1913014) I'll let you judge the usefulness yourself.
- subnetvj 15y agoHey thanks! I think I did go through that thread, but didn't follow up with HSI and eventually it faded out. Looks like it is still going strong.
- perfunctory 15y agoWhy, why is email mandatory to sign up???
- mike-cardwell 15y agoIt doesn't even send a confirmation email, so it seems pretty redundant. Actually ... yes, it's required for password recovery. That seems to be its purpose. It seems like you can just put something fake in as long as you are confident you wont forget/lose your password.
- subnetvj 15y agoWhy doesn't it let me sign up without entering my email? I think when I registered on HN, it didn't make email as mandatory!! Or is my memory deceiving me?
- Jd 15y agoCan I ask a simple question: Why? I live in Europe, but AFAIK none of the places where I've lived/am regular even have an HN meetup. I have no idea we would want a splintered HN.
- mike-cardwell 15y agoMaybe it will do things in new ways that are better than HN. Maybe it will eventually become more International like HN is? Choice and variety are a good thing. You've got to differentiate yourself somehow when you're starting out.
- skeptical 15y agoMany europeans feel like outsiders at HN. Indeed HN content is localized to some extent. Perhaps that's the reason why there's no HN meetups near by your location?
- kiloaper 15y agoThe number one reason for me would be because lots of the things covered on HN tend to be US focused to the point that people forget anywhere else exists. I'm tired of articles praising some service provider or payment processor only to find they are US-only and may support the EU in 'the future'. I'm tired of rants about carrier practices that only affect the US as if it is universal. I'd like to see a site where there is an actual consciousness that not everyone is living in the United States of America.
- angersock 15y agoI'd like to see a site where there is an actual consciousness that not everyone is living in the United States of America. Well, if our lobbyists do their jobs properly, mere accidents of geography will not keep you out of the fold. :) Moreover, sorry dude, the tech war is over and we won. We've got better funding, better language, better regulations, and better spirit--and sadly, not a lot else. EDIT: (and yes, not seeing stories about services that can be used outside of the US is unfortunate--agreed. Submit more and upvote!)
- amac 15y agoInteresting. I think there's definitely demand for services like this. We have been working on a community for entrepreneurs and startups in the UK (in addition to our information website), lion.co.uk/community, we're still in the phase of optimizing things. We've found that there's many entrepreneur and startup websites but gaining critical mass to make a useful community is another thing. We should probably work together but then again, as others have mentioned, there's different requirements for different people. Founders of businesses other than technology and hackers for example might not have reason to collaborate. That said, the more resources there are for business founders the better; especially in Europe right now.
- v0cab 15y agoI'm British and I think this is a great idea. I'm interested to read about the startup scene in Europe and the UK. I do think that we should be trying to move away from the 'hacker' label. People are never going to understand that 'hackers' can be good -- See that AP Press article. And really, our definition is the less popular one, and therefore less correct, and it is we who should change our wording.
- weavejester 15y agoDoes it matter? The people who read Hacker News or Hackful Europe will understand the meaning.
- v0cab 15y agoYeah, but these two websites aren't the only places that the term 'hacker' is used as we use it.
- andygcook 15y agoI don't think this will necessarily gain traction without a huge push to build a community. It would be cool if a system like subreddits was added to Hacker News where it makes sense (e.g. Europe).
- amac 15y agoYou're correct regarding traction. We haven't done any marketing yet as our new features are pretty raw. Developing though is far easier than building the actual 'community'. In fact, we're looking for a marketer to help us do this very thing.
- huskyr 15y agoWouldn't this be more successful if it would be split across countries? Stories about US-focused topics interest me as much (or as little) as stories about European countries where i don't live. Also, for more people than you might imagine a site thats in English (and not in their local language) could be a barrier.
- v0cab 15y agoBut you do live in Europe, and can visit other European countries relatively easily. If you are a member of the EU, you could even move to another EU country. I think most Dutch people would prefer the site to be in English, as the Netherlands is only a small country, and England's an hour or less away by plane. Surely Dutch people would be interested in, for example, sources of venture capital in the UK?
- manmal 15y agoWhy? I as a an Austrian am very interested in stuff happening in Germany - being indirectly affected by it (job markets, economy), and the possibility of tele-working in Berlin is not so far-fetched, going there just once or twice by plane.
- mattslight 15y agoWe are planning london.hackful.com etc. Watch this space.
- sucrenoir 15y agoAn RSS feed would be great !
- kmfrk 15y agoThis looks like a service that tries to imitate Hacker News and assumes the same traffic and audience. Focus on fewer posts on the front page; no more than 20% of the posts on it should have 0 comments, because it just serves to make the site look barren - which it probably is. You don't even have a community yet, so there is no hive mind nor zeitgeist on the site; bringing people together to discuss a few issues will make people get to get and know each other and help build the community. Make it scalable.
- rayhano 15y agoWe are trying - we have a core user base that have kept in communication with an email list called Open Coffee (powered by Meetup.com) That is where the idea came up - we needed a more open method to ask questions of each other, share info and demos
- newandimproved 15y agoAgain, I've got to say you need to differentiate to survive. There have been several HN clones in the past year or so (remember lamernews.com?) but none of them differentiated enough. Please don't make the same mistake. Like Steve Jobs said: "Be Different".
- hessenwolf 15y agoWhy do I have to sign up with my email? I don't want to.
- rayhano 15y agoWorking on Oauth...
- philjackson 15y agoLooks much like Antirez's lamernews.com. What's the stack behind it?
- tahu 15y agoa look at the HTTP headers: tahu@laptop:~$ curl -I http://hackful.com/about HTTP/1.1 200 OK Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Connection: keep-alive Status: 200 X-Powered-By: Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.11 X-UA-Compatible: IE=Edge,chrome=1 ETag: "6972d16343b1a4d0f2a49c9a3174e977" Cache-Control: max-age=0, private, must-revalidate Set-Cookie: _hackful_session=BAh7B0kiD3Nlc3Npb25faWQGOgZFRkkiJWQ5NzYzMThlNDFkOWVhYTI1YzJiZGI0YzNjMjlkOWFhBjsAVEkiEF9jc3JmX3Rva2VuBjsARkkiMUVRU1gzZkhvcHRockpaWndWY2NRcGk3SElJczBmOEY3TW50YjJRZ0plSTg9BjsARg%3D%3D--572416e3b12cc85dda3675c22d117839535e636d; path=/; HttpOnly X-Runtime: 0.017811 Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:26:04 GMT X-Rack-Cache: miss Server: nginx/1.0.10 + Phusion Passenger 3.0.11 (mod_rails/mod_rack)
- why-el 15y agoThe one thing that should really be taken into consideration is username consistency across both sites, that will help. (And I can't have the same user name because the evil "-" is not allowed. Do something about it.)
- pedrocarvalho 15y agoAt first I didn't liked the idea, but it could work as a way to filter out US centric posts and focus more on Europe. I think it needs some guidelines: is English the preferred language? If this is limited to Europe, is it ok to have posts related to other parts of the world?
- freyfogle 15y agoPost and find out. As with all UGC sites, it becomes what users make it. Waiting for "the rules" will probably leave you waiting for a long time.
- jmilloy 15y agoA more appropriate solution, I would think, is regional filtering here on HN. Label submissions with the relevant region, if any, and add one more tab which filters results by region according to a black/white list in your profile. Maybe hackful will show us that such a feature would be heavily used.
- fierarul 15y agoPlease add some OpenID/OAuth option. I don't want to make yet another user account.
- rayhano 15y agoSorry, you are right, complete oversight.
- Geee 15y agoThe problem with Europe is the multitude of languages. You can't target Europe with English language, or it will end up UK/US centric. That's pretty much unsolvable problem. Of course we can talk about things happening in Europe, but that doesn't make sense.
- bigfoot 15y agoYou're being overly pessimistic on the percentage of Europeans speaking English (though not necessarily as their native language). This language has worked as a common means to communicate for a long time and definitely won't leave this web site end up being "UK/US centric".
- Geee 15y agoAlmost everyone speaks English of course, but most people prefer joining communities in their native languages. Many of my hacker friends don't participate on English forums although they speak English pretty well.
- gavanwoolery 15y agoYou need to focus on something other than nationality - I do not care if my news comes from the US or from Europe (and I think I am in the majority here), I only care if it is interesting. Maybe a Hacker News with subsections, like Reddit?
- hessenwolf 15y agoYes, lets rule out the country that provides us with a userbase for most of our sites. Surely there's nothing relevant there? Hands up if you have an English-language website in which the US is not the largest segment of users?
- freyfogle 15y agoI have several - one for the UK, one for India (in English) and one for Australia. Each targets the local audience and gets negligible usage from the US. It's a big world. Most English speakers don't live in the US. Not even most native English speakers live in the US.
- rayhano 15y agoIt is nice to hear about Stripe, but useless to me as only available to US users. I want to hear about GoCardless and not have to search through to see what is relevant to me and what I can access. Plus, if I am based in Paris, I want people in Paris to quickly respond to a plea for help.
- Silhouette 15y ago> Yes, lets rule out the country that provides us with a userbase for most of our sites. With the greatest respect, that kind of silly assumption is exactly why a Euro-centric HN-style site is potentially interesting to those of us here in Europe. I can think of numerous ideas for businesses aimed at a particular kind of culture or niche interest where the US probably wouldn't be a particularly big market. In any case, there are more people in Europe than the US, and a very high proportion of them speak English with impressive fluency even if it's not their native language. And while we have quite distinct national identities, we also have many things in common that are relevant to a business/tech audience and quite different from how things work in, say, North America or Asia.
- angersock 15y agoSo, if you already speak the language, why not use your larger demographic to promote more relevant articles here on HN? We benefit from having another perspective represented here more than we do from having it shown in some other far-flung echochamber on the web. Or is the idea of melting pot a bit much for you old country folks? :)
- aroberge 15y agoI'm in Canada and I can completely understand the sentiments that led to the creation of this site. However, I fear that this may lead to HN_Asia, HN_South_America, HN_Oceania, etc., making it extremely difficult to stay on top of good interesting news, and leading to a lot of duplication. I would very much like to see instead a single additional site (HN') which would have a larger focus than simply the European scene, and where obvious US-centric post/comments would mercilessly be deleted.
- rayhano 15y agoIn the aftermath, I have been thinking if there is a way to hive off region specific posts into separate pages, but obviously still linking back to HN. The other downside to HN is the obvious great mass/karma based in California/wider US that influences the front page of HN. Work in progress :) Feedback on specifics are being worked on furiously by Elias Haase in a coffee shop in East London - poor guy is struggling with coffee shop wifi to deploy - show some love: http://twitter.com/8bitpal http://twitter.com/8bitpal
- freyfogle 15y agoAhh but that then opens the door to an HN aggregator. Get to work! Media is endless disintermediation.
- alain94040 15y agoIt's called tags. Imagine if any post on HN could be tagged by anyone. Then, you are free to only read HN/Europe (all posts tagged Europe). Or browse the regular home page. It won't happen because HN has made a conscious choice of not going after all the "web 2.0" gimmicks, but sometimes you wish it wasn't completely the case.
- rayhano 15y agoWould be so much more useful with some restricted tagging :)
- zachinglis 15y agoTo be honest, I never go "Damn. I wish the Hacker News articles were more focused around me." Most of the articles here are universal, the rest still make a difference to me.
- rayhano 15y agoThen you will likely carry on benefiting from Hacker News, as we all do. Hackful is for those who want to share amongst their local peers. We aren't trying to be fancy; just an extension of the current Open Coffee mailing list.
- geon 15y agoMy only concern is that I don't think people in Europe feel very "European". There is no identity in being European like there is in being German, Swedish, or whatever. Bundling us together because we live on the same continent seems a bit artificial to me.
- skrebbel 15y agoThis, again, differs very much from area to area and from subculture to subculture. I, myself, feel very European. In the hacker culture context, even more so, given that it's my way of saying "Not USA". We have multiple languages (impacts app design and priorities), a very different set of employment laws (impacts hiring approaches), a more laid back working culture (impacts to what extent VCs can get you to work 70 hours a week), and so on. All of these things are relatively common among most, if not all, European countries, yet very different in the US. Canada is, as usual, somewhere halfway.
- geon 15y ago> a more laid back working culture (impacts to what extent VCs can get you to work 70 hours a week) Good point. I havent thought of it that way. Not identifying myself as european might be because I'm Swedish, and thus a bit off-center geographically. I feel a stronger international identity in the Nordic countries, sharing a great deal of culture and political history. We don't even have any border controll to speak of between Norway and Sweden.
- justincormack 15y agoI feel very European. There is a huge amount of history and culture that binds us together. And I think a European hacker culture too to some extent. Writing this in a French bar in Brussels, although I am English.
- samgranger 15y agoWhat I love about HN is that the users here are international - not just USA, or just EU. What's the benefit of having an EU only version?
- babarock 15y agoPasswords... Again. I can't believe I still have to create an account. Even for a website like HN that I'm completely addicted to, I would've never signed up if it weren't for OpenID. You want me to use your service? Make it easy for me to authenticate, I don't need yet another password...
- a3_nm 15y agoThis isn't phrased very pleasantly, but it is a valid point. It would be very cool to have OpenID support like on HN.
- 8bitpal 15y agoI'm working on it. Coming soon. (I developed Hackful)
- petercooper 15y agoTwitter, Facebook, or even GitHub authentication is certainly de rigeur, but I must admit I thought OpenID had fallen off the radar and I haven't seen any interesting new projects supporting it lately. Even 37signals gave up on it mostly due to lack of use: http://productblog.37signals.com/products/2011/01/well-be-retiring-our-support-of-openid-on-may-1.html http://productblog.37signals.com/products/2011/01/well-be-re... Nothing against OpenID, per se, but it doesn't feel like it has taken off. Or maybe the big sites that are using it are just getting on with it AOK :-)
- robgough 15y agoI only recently made the effort to switch to a tool like 1Password and it's great for creating on-the-fly secure passwords that I don't need to bother remembering. I believe there's quite a few products that do a similar job.
- timme 15y agoHacker News for Europe = Hacker News.
- biafra 15y agoFinally something in my timezone!
- marban 15y agowhat about splitting HN into different sections?
- xxiao 15y agogreat for Europe and everyone else! love the idea.
- mohsen 15y agook, so i've had this on my mind for some time now, and i'm going to highjack this thread in hopes of getting this out there. Hackful has sort of shot itself in the foot by trying to use HN as a medium to expose itself. for a long time now HN has started to cross the line from a place for people to share ideas and experiences with running a startup to a place for people to link to tutorials and hot topics in the tech world, or high ranked questions from SO (i'm guilty myself). I really don't see why we do this, we have r/programming, et al for that. HN is a place to talk about statups. look at Hackful. I ran through the first 3 pages and here are the topics. i broke them down by irrelevan, relevant, and something i call the grey area, where it could go either way. the count is very off. i could only pick 20 out of 45 posts as 100% startup relevant. or course my opinion is my opinion and i'm sure there are people who will argue that my lists are debatable, and they are, but that's not the point. the point is that it is not 100% on topic, and we need to figure out a way to fix this. one way is for the community to have the correct mindset and get involved and fixing the issue: 1) don't post irrelevant topics. 2) if we see off topic posts - since there isn't really a way for us to stop that now - just ignore them and let them disappear. we come to HN to read about startups, if we want programming info, tutorials, etc then there are other places to go (reddit, so, etc). another option is to go sort of the reddit-route and allow for subs. that's an option, but again we would be diverging from the original purpose of this site. just shooting out some thoughts, and trying to make us think about where we're going with HN. irrelevant list: (count = 11) 8 reasons for switching to Git(blog.fournova.com) Git cheat sheet(blog.fournova.com) How we are using Big Data to solve Social Travel(tripl.tumblr.com) The switch from apache to nginx(news.ycombinator.com) Top 10 IT skills in 2012(ciozone.com) Nicnack for easy multicast testing(adventuresinfabric.posterous.com) Only 6% of Wikipedia Readers Have Ever Edited Wikipedia Content !!(thetecnica.com) Tech in "Hollywood Edition"(aaronklein.com) Teach yourself Git in two minutes(jperla.com) Show Hackful: Browser Based Strategy Game (Spoils Rotten)(spoilsrotten.com) Show Hackful: My Digital Guidebook Startup (Artworm)(artworm.hillsbede.co.uk) relevant list: (count = 20) Show HF: Cubecolor, a fancy HTML5 colorscheme generator(plainas.github.com) Dutch startup is building the most simple customer support software in the world(apo.io) Startupbootcamp to shape up Berlin(venturevillage.eu) Ask HE: What are the missing pieces of the European ecosystem? 15 startups from Berlin - there is more than Soundcloud, Wooga and Amen(netzwertig.com) Who is missing from this list of young entrepreneurs to watch in 2012?(yourhiddenpotential.co.uk) Twitter developer teatime in Berlin(techberlin.com) Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Helsinki - We Have A Problem(arcticstartup.com) Show HE: My first RoR-app... a platform for winning a dribbble invite.(showwwdown.com) Berlin Startup Jobs. Marketplace For Inspiring Jobs(berlinstartupjobs.com) Marketplace for Startup jobs in Berlin(berlinstartupjobs.com) SEO Tool & Collectible Card Game. Boost Website Traffic - SERPs & Spyders(serpsandspyders.com) Ask Hackful: Do UK angel groups work?(t.co) Flagons Den Beginners' Poker(london.flagonsden.com) EatSocial - 2nd Feb(eatsocial.net) A local European Angel List London needs a place for hackers to hang out Citymapper - Find your way FAST(citymapper.co.uk) Show Hackful: adscaped - Monetisation without compromise(adscaped.com) Digital Shoreditch festival 2012(digitalshoreditch.com) grey list: (count = 14) Ask HE: Is the source open? Hacker News Tell HE: Hackful sounds (and looks) too much like Hateful Hackful Team: API please? Who registered @hackful? Can we have it please?(twitter.com) Hackful Team: Can we have a daily roundup email please? Is it ok to post articles in other european languages? Tell HE: Please improve the contrast between comments and comment-attributes Hackful Team: RSS feed please! Founder of german ridesharing startup gives his car away (flinc.org) Facebook S1 Filing (Official IPO Document)(sec.gov) Whispero(whispero.com) Longform - for lovers of essays(longform.org) Openbrand(eu.techcrunch.com) Edit: cleaned up the links
- sep 15y agoI have to say that I'm a bit conflicted about this. On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with "splitting" HN, especially by geography. The main reason being that news that would interest only hackers in a specific region/country wouldn't see the light of HN's front page, as global readers just wouldn't care as much. As a matter of fact, I even run an "HN splinter" myself, for Israelis (https://bitorama.com https://bitorama.com), and I'm pretty hopeful about it. That said, the EU is a pretty big and diverse place. Would a guy from Romania or Finland be more likely to find stories that interest him in an EU-wide site rather than in HN? I'm not convinced. Maybe a more regional approach is required. Then again, I could be proven wrong. So best of luck to the guys running the site!
- pestaa 15y ago> Would a guy from Romania or Finland be more likely > to find stories that interest him in an EU-wide > site rather than in HN? That was my thinking too. There are lots of small countries with relatively small hacker communities that don't generate that much news on a regular basis. That said, I've always struggled finding EU-based services, so this might be their chance!
- mkramlich 15y agoI'm pretty sure Hacker News can be viewed and contributed to by folks in Europe already.
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- danmaz74 15y agoOne suggestion: hackful.com has no linkage to the differentiating factor of the website. Why not change it to hackful.eu? This isn't a decisive factor, but it could help in the positioning...
- rayhano 15y agoJust wanted to thank all the commenters and those who are signing up to Hackful!
- olh 15y agoWithout too much rhetoric: haters gonna hate.
- Lucadg 15y agothis will be useful if it makes access to European VCs easier. Good luck guys, I'll read HE everyday.
- rayhano 15y ago750users in just over TWO days and approaching 200 posts with several times more comments!