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I had a couple of personal projects with a few hundred users. Both could have become startups, but I shut them both down because of GDPR. The definition of the

by cbeach 4y ago

I had a couple of personal projects with a few hundred users. Both could have become startups, but I shut them both down because of GDPR. The definition of the law is complex. I wasn’t doing anything underhand, but I don’t have the legal expertise to ensure I am 100% compliant with all parts of the law, and I don’t have the resources to hire lawyers. I cannot afford the punitive fines, and I have to consider the financial safety of my family. GDPR presents an unacceptable risk to me.

eeturunen 4y ago
Yours is exactly the kind of scenario I find very interesting and will evaluate in my research. While it's important to protect individual right to privacy, it's also very important for the EU to make entrepreneurship as approachable as possible to truly boost economic growth. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
- BjoernKW 4y ago
  > While it's important to protect individual right to privacy, it's also very important for the EU to make entrepreneurship as approachable as possible to truly boost economic growth. I'm sorry to break it to you, but the EU doesn't care about entrepreneurship and small businesses. Anything EU politicians and representatives like to say to the contrary is mere lip service. By and large, the EU is an environment that's hostile towards entrepreneurship.
  - drakonka 4y ago
    Not sure if there is some overarching hostility I just haven't seen, but there are so many startups, especially tech startups, where I live in the EU. I hear of someone I know starting their own studio or other business very regularly, and there is very much a general "vibe" of entrepreneurship in the cities I've lived in. Luckily this hostile environment doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent around here at least.
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Someone 4y ago
> The definition of the law is complex I don’t understand that sentiment. The text is almost self-contained and easy to read relative to lots of other legal things such as tax laws that you have to know if you start a business. The GDPR basically boils down to “guard your user’s data, keep only what you need, and tell them what you do with it”. For the typical “we keep user email addresses so that we can send them bills and credit card info so that we can charge them” use case it’s not hard to comply with the GDPR. And, nitpick: the GDPR is not a law.
- eeturunen 4y ago
  What do you mean by "the GDPR is not a law"? That statement is simply not correct.
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
    He means that due to the inanity of the eu the gdpr is a directive to the actual countries to pass a law (or laws) that match or exceed it.
    - eeturunen 4y ago
      But that's not true. The GDPR is enforceable as law in each member country.
      - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
        Really? I guess we're both wrong.
        eeturunen 4y ago
        Yup. The GDPR is literally a regulation, not a directive. A directive is implemented into national law while a regulation is enforced as is and supersedes national legislation.
- cbeach 4y ago

by cbeach 4y ago

eeturunen 4y ago

Yours is exactly the kind of scenario I find very interesting and will evaluate in my research. While it's important to protect individual right to privacy, it's also very important for the EU to make entrepreneurship as approachable as possible to truly boost economic growth. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

BjoernKW 4y ago
> While it's important to protect individual right to privacy, it's also very important for the EU to make entrepreneurship as approachable as possible to truly boost economic growth. I'm sorry to break it to you, but the EU doesn't care about entrepreneurship and small businesses. Anything EU politicians and representatives like to say to the contrary is mere lip service. By and large, the EU is an environment that's hostile towards entrepreneurship.
- drakonka 4y ago
  Not sure if there is some overarching hostility I just haven't seen, but there are so many startups, especially tech startups, where I live in the EU. I hear of someone I know starting their own studio or other business very regularly, and there is very much a general "vibe" of entrepreneurship in the cities I've lived in. Luckily this hostile environment doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent around here at least.

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Someone 4y ago

> The definition of the law is complex I don’t understand that sentiment. The text is almost self-contained and easy to read relative to lots of other legal things such as tax laws that you have to know if you start a business. The GDPR basically boils down to “guard your user’s data, keep only what you need, and tell them what you do with it”. For the typical “we keep user email addresses so that we can send them bills and credit card info so that we can charge them” use case it’s not hard to comply with the GDPR. And, nitpick: the GDPR is not a law.

eeturunen 4y ago
What do you mean by "the GDPR is not a law"? That statement is simply not correct.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  He means that due to the inanity of the eu the gdpr is a directive to the actual countries to pass a law (or laws) that match or exceed it.
  - eeturunen 4y ago
    But that's not true. The GDPR is enforceable as law in each member country.
    - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
      Really? I guess we're both wrong.
      - eeturunen 4y ago
        Yup. The GDPR is literally a regulation, not a directive. A directive is implemented into national law while a regulation is enforced as is and supersedes national legislation.
cbeach 4y ago