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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Alpha 2 arrives for testing
- omh 15y agoIt will also be the first version to target a 750 MB ISO image, meaning that it will no longer fit onto a standard CD Why are they targetting 750MB? Once you've decided to go above the capacity of a CD why restrict yourself to just a little more, rather than say 1GB (for small USB drives) or 4GB (for single layer DVDs).
- Symmetry 15y agoTo minimize download times, though I do sort of think that 1GB might be better.
- robin_reala 15y agoHow much available space is there on a 1Gb flash drive when formatted using FAT32?
- omh 15y agoWell less than 1024MB, but still a lot more than 750MB
- dspillett 15y agoA bit over 950MiB if you are talking about pure space. Assuming a cluster size of 512 bytes (IIRC FAT32 doesn't need bigger blocks than this until the 2TiB mark) you are going to waste an average of 256 bytes per file (but lets be paranoid a consider the worst case: losing 511 bytes per file. The 10.04 CD contains 1300 files, if we suggest 12.04 is going to double that then you could lose you are only going to drop another Mib or two this way. So 750 does seem to be an odd figure to aim for. They are not even thinking about people overburning on CDs, IIRC 735MiB is further than you can usually push that. Is there any common storage size that divides nearly neatly into 750MiB chunks?
- batista 15y agoMaybe they are thinking it from the standpoint of what they need to add, rather than how much they have to FILL.
- jcastro 15y agoThis is pretty much the outcome of the session at UDS. I don't recall what the final agreement was but the idea is to ratchet things up as developers need it without just tossing everything onto the disc at once.
- lloeki 15y agoOn a 1GB stick that leaves 300MB room for persistence, if Ubuntu ever supports that.
- keithpeter 15y agoUbuntu's live disc creator does support persistent storage. You can have an iso image and then add some of the spare space for the storage. I use this with a 4Gb usb stick myself. You can also install ubuntu to a stick with 8Gb+ of storage of course.
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- ilcavero 15y agothe question is, is unity usable already? will it ever?
- egil 15y agoFor some of us, it already is. We just don't rant about it every time someone mentions Ubuntu or Unity.
- dagw 15y agoThere are two Ubuntu using people in my office who've completely moved to unity and who are happy with it. But there's also third person who thinks it's crap and switched to Mint. Personally, I'm happy running Xubuntu and haven't looked too closely at the whole issue
- simon 15y agoI use it and like it. I like the way that it gets out of your way when using applications. I'm still getting used to some of the configuration aspects, but I don't spend that much time tinkering with setup, so all told it's a solid win for me.
- mladenkovacevic 15y agoI personally enjoy Unity and while it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it, I find it's made me at least 5-10% more productive in the long run. I would compare it to learning to drive manual transmission. Difficult to get used to at first, but once you've mastered it, automatic will feel awkward and unsafe.
- SkyMarshal 15y agoI'm using Unity, and while it stays out of my way for the most part (I use a launcher for everything), I haven't noticed any features that would make me more productive. I'm curious about that now, can you elaborate?
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- RexRollman 15y agoFrom the article: "Ubuntu 12.04 will be a Long Term Support (LTS) release that will be supported for five years on both the server edition and, for the first time, the desktop edition." I was under the impression that previous LTS releases did include the desktop version. Is this article wrong or is my memory faulty?
- beza1e1 15y agoPrevious desktop versions were supported for only 2,5 years.
- dspillett 15y agoThere has previously been the distinction between server and desktop for the LTS support window, even though they are the same distribution just with different default packages selected by the installer (and the server D has the textual installer only, but you can install "desktop" from that or the "alternate" install CD). I can only assume that the distinction is that they wouldn't guarantee support via security updates for desktop-only packages like OO.o, browsers, and so on (perhaps even GNOME in its entirety), after the first 2.5 years but would guarantee it for packages likely to be installed on a headless server (ssh, Apache, bind, samba, ...)
- newman314 15y agoAnyone know if this will install on ESXI 5?
- jbronn 15y agoInstalls fine on ESXi 4 -- should be no problem on 5.
- newman314 15y agoJust tried and it works mostly. However, I've run into a really strange issue with ssh. If and only if I am logged into the console, I am able to ssh from a remote machine. If I log out from the console, I get access denied. Never seen this before. Hopefully it's a bug somewhere.
- mixmastamyk 15y ago> "pre-releases of Precise Pangolin are not encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage". From my experience I would say the same of Ubuntu release versions. They can't be counted on for at least 3-6 months after release, and even then bugs other than security are rarely if ever fixed, (though many can be blamed on upstream of course).