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Most of the conversation about electric conversion relates to climate. But a huge additional benefit will be improved human respiratory health. Our current stra

Most of the conversation about electric conversion relates to climate. But a huge additional benefit will be improved human respiratory health. Our current strategy of burning fuels at point of use - cooking, heating, ICE cars - means that the exhaust goes directly into the populated spaces where most people live!

yencabulator 4y ago
Extracting oil & natural gas also leaks a stupid amount of methane etc, that floats around for people living there to breathe.
lazide 4y ago
If heating exhaust (or ICE exhaust) goes into spaces the users breathe, the users will be dead pretty quick. As in minutes, hours at most. Combustion heaters for occupied spaces use heat exchangers to make sure that doesn’t happen. Occasionally one cracks or fails and people die from the carbon monoxide poisoning. ICE cars pipe exhaust away from the passenger compartments. Occasionally someone kills themselves by running their car in their garage. Cooking, folks need to use fume hoods anyway, as smoke, oil fumes, etc. make massive amounts of air pollution and are unavoidable even with electric with most styles of cooking. Natural gas or propane stovetops if functioning properly only add a moderate amount of pollution, and little/no carbon monoxide. That said, most of the exhaust fans/fume hoods hoods in most houses or apartments do nearly nothing except make noise. So yeah. Open windows.
- dmonitor 4y ago
  The universe does not end at a car’s tailpipe. That exhaust stays in the city. Eventually it dissipates into the atmosphere, but a constant stream of car exhaust is going to change the air quality.
  - lazide 4y ago
    It’s disingenuous however to say they are even close to the same magnitude of impact, or that those impacts are in any meaningful way reduced by the conversion of one’s own usage.
    - dmonitor 4y ago
      Sure, removing 1 car from the equation does next to nothing. Removing 70% of the pollution could be significant over the course of a decade though.
    - yencabulator 4y ago
      You could literally see COVID's effect of decreasing (mostly-ICE) traffic in Los Angeles by the perpetual smog disappearing.

yencabulator 4y ago

Extracting oil & natural gas also leaks a stupid amount of methane etc, that floats around for people living there to breathe.

lazide 4y ago

If heating exhaust (or ICE exhaust) goes into spaces the users breathe, the users will be dead pretty quick. As in minutes, hours at most. Combustion heaters for occupied spaces use heat exchangers to make sure that doesn’t happen. Occasionally one cracks or fails and people die from the carbon monoxide poisoning. ICE cars pipe exhaust away from the passenger compartments. Occasionally someone kills themselves by running their car in their garage. Cooking, folks need to use fume hoods anyway, as smoke, oil fumes, etc. make massive amounts of air pollution and are unavoidable even with electric with most styles of cooking. Natural gas or propane stovetops if functioning properly only add a moderate amount of pollution, and little/no carbon monoxide. That said, most of the exhaust fans/fume hoods hoods in most houses or apartments do nearly nothing except make noise. So yeah. Open windows.

dmonitor 4y ago
The universe does not end at a car’s tailpipe. That exhaust stays in the city. Eventually it dissipates into the atmosphere, but a constant stream of car exhaust is going to change the air quality.
- lazide 4y ago
  It’s disingenuous however to say they are even close to the same magnitude of impact, or that those impacts are in any meaningful way reduced by the conversion of one’s own usage.
  - dmonitor 4y ago
    Sure, removing 1 car from the equation does next to nothing. Removing 70% of the pollution could be significant over the course of a decade though.
  - yencabulator 4y ago
    You could literally see COVID's effect of decreasing (mostly-ICE) traffic in Los Angeles by the perpetual smog disappearing.