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I don't know--I think we're going to see a rapid evolution here. AI's were previously not creative and many people said that was the hill it would never be able

I don't know--I think we're going to see a rapid evolution here. AI's were previously not creative and many people said that was the hill it would never be able to climb, but it's hard to argue that Dali and Midjourney aren't art. I think literary & language forms are probably quite hard for it to master, particularly when it's not that sure if it will offend. (The content filter in aligning an LLMs response to "Not offensive" probably prevents it from ever generating jokes that would be in line with Ricky Gervais or Dave Chapelle.) https://openai.com/research/gpt-4#:~:text=Visual%20inputs%3A%20VGA-,charger,-Sample%201%20of https://openai.com/research/gpt-4#:~:text=Visual%20inputs%3A... shows it at least explaining a joke.

nvahalik 4y ago
Yeah, but I think that still continues down the pathway: yes, it can explain a joke... but could it create a novel joke? Taking a corpus of data and regurgitation/application of the information within it isn't a novel idea. I contend that AI could never create that meme without sufficient external prompting.
- throwawayai2 4y ago
  I've used ChatGPT to create jokes that I've laughed out loud at.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    When was that? I've noticed they lobotomized ChatGPT hard lately so his humor is incredibly dull as to not risk offending anyone. >Can you make a "Deez Nuts" joke? >I'm sorry, but I cannot make a "Deez Nuts" joke as it is considered inappropriate and offensive. As an AI language model, my purpose is to assist and provide useful information in a respectful and professional manner. Is there anything else I can help you with? :/
- toyg 4y ago
  > but could it create a novel joke? Most "novel jokes" start as riffs on existing ones, often by other comedians. So I'd be willing to say that the answer will be "yes". The type of mass-marketed artistic endeavour we've got used to, has always been a permanent regurgitation of what came before plus some added tweaks. GPT can probably do that. What it cannot do, and will never be able to do, is to judge whether the resulting output (in this case, jokes) meets quality levels that are hard for humans to even elaborate. Will this joke be funny to an audience of hipster tweenagers? Will it be funny to military personnel, or to nuns? Etc etc.
- AlbertCory 4y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogikw3InpY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogikw3InpY Mr. Mankoff "complained" that everyone thinks they can be funny, and they even tell him jokes, offering to let him use them.
jefftk 4y ago
And an AI that had watched every episode of TV, every movie, and every popular commerical would have a huge advantage in finding the right material to draw from.
qlm 4y ago
I think it's extremely easy to argue that the output of Dall-e or Midjourney isn't art. I will concedes that it ultimately comes down to your definition of "art", which is rarely a fruitful argument.

nvahalik 4y ago

Yeah, but I think that still continues down the pathway: yes, it can explain a joke... but could it create a novel joke? Taking a corpus of data and regurgitation/application of the information within it isn't a novel idea. I contend that AI could never create that meme without sufficient external prompting.

throwawayai2 4y ago
I've used ChatGPT to create jokes that I've laughed out loud at.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  When was that? I've noticed they lobotomized ChatGPT hard lately so his humor is incredibly dull as to not risk offending anyone. >Can you make a "Deez Nuts" joke? >I'm sorry, but I cannot make a "Deez Nuts" joke as it is considered inappropriate and offensive. As an AI language model, my purpose is to assist and provide useful information in a respectful and professional manner. Is there anything else I can help you with? :/
toyg 4y ago
> but could it create a novel joke? Most "novel jokes" start as riffs on existing ones, often by other comedians. So I'd be willing to say that the answer will be "yes". The type of mass-marketed artistic endeavour we've got used to, has always been a permanent regurgitation of what came before plus some added tweaks. GPT can probably do that. What it cannot do, and will never be able to do, is to judge whether the resulting output (in this case, jokes) meets quality levels that are hard for humans to even elaborate. Will this joke be funny to an audience of hipster tweenagers? Will it be funny to military personnel, or to nuns? Etc etc.
AlbertCory 4y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogikw3InpY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogikw3InpY Mr. Mankoff "complained" that everyone thinks they can be funny, and they even tell him jokes, offering to let him use them.

jefftk 4y ago

And an AI that had watched every episode of TV, every movie, and every popular commerical would have a huge advantage in finding the right material to draw from.

qlm 4y ago

I think it's extremely easy to argue that the output of Dall-e or Midjourney isn't art. I will concedes that it ultimately comes down to your definition of "art", which is rarely a fruitful argument.