> When there is threat of punishment, legitimate actual punishment, people fall into line Yet there's so many more people incarcerated in the US for such long

> When there is threat of punishment, legitimate actual punishment, people fall into line Yet there's so many more people incarcerated in the US for such long periods of time than in most other countries. "Life without parole" basically doesn't really exist in Europe. > Here's the thing - I do have evidence. But it's the evidence I've seen with my own eyes, not something I've read in some paper or study. My evidence is (I see no other way to put it than to be frank) just common sense. I've met plenty of people in my life. I've seen humans and I know how humans behave Straight out of a Trump speech :)