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>"Second, sure the US doesn’t want to lose control of the mostly peaceful, prosperous, and free rules-based order it created after the disastrous first half of
by Emma_Goldman 4y ago
>"Second, sure the US doesn’t want to lose control of the mostly peaceful, prosperous, and free rules-based order it created after the disastrous first half of the 20th century. And rightly so."
Which has been the justification every hegemonic power has offered when working to undermine a rising power.
Whose rules are they, and who do they benefit? Who has most egregiously exempted themselves from the rules without consequence?
I agree that 'a world dominated by Xi Xinping' would be worse - though it's not clear they have any aspiration to global primacy, like the US did post-WW2 - but that's no reason to peddle myths about American exceptionalism.
- mlindner 4y agoThe world has benefited far more than the US ever did. The "rules based order" was never created to benefit the US, if anywhere, it was created by the US to benefit Europe and East Asia to highly encourage a World War 2 to never occur again. China has benefited from this order more than the US ever has. It brought them out of poverty. Now they want to discard it now they've achieved some measure of regional power.
- whinenot 4y agoThey benefit the world. - Have you ever considered how much of your stuff comes via shipping lanes protected by the US Navy? Somali pirates got to FAFO what the USN thinks of pirates and we all see how that money making scheme has resonated around the globe. - No US support = no Ukraine today (full stop) - Is Taiwan still an independent country?
- SkyMarshal 4y ago> Whose rules are they, and who do they benefit? Ask what’s left of the US middle class that, then ask the new Chinese middle class the same question. In terms of pure quantity of people benefiting, China wins - beneficiaries were hundreds of millions of Chinese who rose out of poverty, the capital owners in both China and US, and the CCP. Losers were the US middle class, which was one of the main reasons for the rise of Trump, and the US political system as a result of that.