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Tribeless? I thought he was pretty hardcore Republican?

by danparsonson 4y ago

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foderking 4y ago
hes anything but a hard-core republican. iirc he has always voted democrat unril not long ago
- epgui 4y ago
  And yet almost everything he says on Twitter is highly indicative of the contrary, so who knows what he really thinks.
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  - ROTMetro 4y ago
    Rupert Murdoch, the guy Elon spent the Super Bowl with, might know a bit of his position.
- godelski 4y ago
  I'm lost, are you talking about Trump or Elon?
mlindner 4y ago
He voted for Obama, Clinton and Biden, so no, not really.
- epgui 4y ago
  I mean Obama was just a strong choice, and what exactly was the alternative when Clinton and Biden ran? Honestly, not casting a completely insane vote doesn't mean much.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. A hardcore Republican votes for Republican candidates, of which there was reasonably popular versions of for each election. I wasn’t claiming he was a Democrat, just that he wasn’t a “hardcore Republican”.
    - epgui 4y ago
      I was just assuming you could be "hardcore" and still somewhat pragmatic or reasonable, but I'm with ya. (eg.: I'm "hardcore pro-science", but I wouldn't vote for someone I thought was a pro-science evil person. This example doesn't compare to what we're talking about, it's just to illustrate my own point in this comment.)
      - mlindner 4y ago
        The people who vote for a candidate generally don't think they're evil either.
        epgui 4y ago
        I'd argue that most people don't think, period... haha. I totally know what you mean, and the key is whether someone has the ability to be critical about and vary their own default position, if you will. This can be very difficult to ascertain, because it's often a matter of counter-factuals.
  - decafninja 4y ago
    Playing devil’s advocate because I agree with you, but there are plenty of people who would have said: “I mean McCain/Romney was just a strong choice, and what was the alternative (to voting for Trump) when Clinton and Biden ran? Honestly, not casting a completely insane vote (for Clinton or Biden) doesn’t mean much”. Granted there does seem to have been a division between McCain/Romney voters and Trump voters.
    - epgui 4y ago

Tribeless? I thought he was pretty hardcore Republican?

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foderking 4y ago

hes anything but a hard-core republican. iirc he has always voted democrat unril not long ago

epgui 4y ago
And yet almost everything he says on Twitter is highly indicative of the contrary, so who knows what he really thinks.
- deleted 4y ago
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- ROTMetro 4y ago
  Rupert Murdoch, the guy Elon spent the Super Bowl with, might know a bit of his position.
godelski 4y ago
I'm lost, are you talking about Trump or Elon?

mlindner 4y ago

He voted for Obama, Clinton and Biden, so no, not really.

epgui 4y ago
I mean Obama was just a strong choice, and what exactly was the alternative when Clinton and Biden ran? Honestly, not casting a completely insane vote doesn't mean much.
- mlindner 4y ago
  I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. A hardcore Republican votes for Republican candidates, of which there was reasonably popular versions of for each election. I wasn’t claiming he was a Democrat, just that he wasn’t a “hardcore Republican”.
  - epgui 4y ago
    I was just assuming you could be "hardcore" and still somewhat pragmatic or reasonable, but I'm with ya. (eg.: I'm "hardcore pro-science", but I wouldn't vote for someone I thought was a pro-science evil person. This example doesn't compare to what we're talking about, it's just to illustrate my own point in this comment.)
    - mlindner 4y ago
      The people who vote for a candidate generally don't think they're evil either.
      - epgui 4y ago
        I'd argue that most people don't think, period... haha. I totally know what you mean, and the key is whether someone has the ability to be critical about and vary their own default position, if you will. This can be very difficult to ascertain, because it's often a matter of counter-factuals.
- decafninja 4y ago
  Playing devil’s advocate because I agree with you, but there are plenty of people who would have said: “I mean McCain/Romney was just a strong choice, and what was the alternative (to voting for Trump) when Clinton and Biden ran? Honestly, not casting a completely insane vote (for Clinton or Biden) doesn’t mean much”. Granted there does seem to have been a division between McCain/Romney voters and Trump voters.
  - epgui 4y ago