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With the unprecedented indictment and arrest of an ex-president on trumped up and statutorily expired charges, how far is the US from a dictatorship? We already

With the unprecedented indictment and arrest of an ex-president on trumped up and statutorily expired charges, how far is the US from a dictatorship? We already know about the rampant mass censorship, thanks to Twitter files expose, militarisation of police and accumulation of all wealth by a few corporates. The only thing left for a clear path towards dictatorship was persecution of political opponents.

rnk 4y ago
I haven't heard any republicans upset about the indictment claim that Trump would never do such a thing as bribe someone to keep quiet and then file deliberately misleading tax reports, and lie on his taxes. Everyone, even his supporters thinks he does things like that. So mull that over. They are just mad it was brought to a court of law. I do wish the more serious charges had been filed first. The reason it was unprecedented was because previous presidents hadn't committed crimes like that, en mass, at scale, and then on top of all the other things organized a rebellion against the next president's election.
- DuckFeathers 4y ago
  People support whatever they see as the lesser evil. Everyone knows other politicians are slimy agents of large corporations and Trump is getting in legal trouble BECAUSE he stands a chance in the upcoming elections. It is clear to everyone that Trump was blackmailed and he seems to have done something illegal to try to keep his affair out of public eye, where it belongs. As much as you want to pretend how much you care about the rule of law, these things don't exist in a vacuum and most people are smart enough to see what's up.
- zapdrive 4y ago
  > and then on top of all the other things organized a rebellion against the next president's election. That is not what Trump was indicted for. It's like saying my neighbour should be fined for throwing trash in his yard because he killed his wife. Both things are totally unrelated. > The reason it was unprecedented was because previous presidents hadn't committed crimes like that Almost every presidential campaign (including Hillary Clinton's) has done campaign funds misuse. But again, Trump is not being indicted for giving money to Daniels from campain funds (which is totally legal, believe it or not!), he is being indicted for mislabeling it as legal fees.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > But again, Trump is not being indicted for giving money to Daniels from campain funds (which is totally legal, believe it or not!) Well, it would be legal if properly reported in campaign expenditure diaclosures, but... that kind of defeats the purpose of hush money payments to accurately and publicly disclose the amount, recipient, and purpose. So, to make hush money from campaign funds work, you have to break the law, too.

rnk 4y ago

I haven't heard any republicans upset about the indictment claim that Trump would never do such a thing as bribe someone to keep quiet and then file deliberately misleading tax reports, and lie on his taxes. Everyone, even his supporters thinks he does things like that. So mull that over. They are just mad it was brought to a court of law. I do wish the more serious charges had been filed first. The reason it was unprecedented was because previous presidents hadn't committed crimes like that, en mass, at scale, and then on top of all the other things organized a rebellion against the next president's election.

DuckFeathers 4y ago
People support whatever they see as the lesser evil. Everyone knows other politicians are slimy agents of large corporations and Trump is getting in legal trouble BECAUSE he stands a chance in the upcoming elections. It is clear to everyone that Trump was blackmailed and he seems to have done something illegal to try to keep his affair out of public eye, where it belongs. As much as you want to pretend how much you care about the rule of law, these things don't exist in a vacuum and most people are smart enough to see what's up.
zapdrive 4y ago
> and then on top of all the other things organized a rebellion against the next president's election. That is not what Trump was indicted for. It's like saying my neighbour should be fined for throwing trash in his yard because he killed his wife. Both things are totally unrelated. > The reason it was unprecedented was because previous presidents hadn't committed crimes like that Almost every presidential campaign (including Hillary Clinton's) has done campaign funds misuse. But again, Trump is not being indicted for giving money to Daniels from campain funds (which is totally legal, believe it or not!), he is being indicted for mislabeling it as legal fees.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > But again, Trump is not being indicted for giving money to Daniels from campain funds (which is totally legal, believe it or not!) Well, it would be legal if properly reported in campaign expenditure diaclosures, but... that kind of defeats the purpose of hush money payments to accurately and publicly disclose the amount, recipient, and purpose. So, to make hush money from campaign funds work, you have to break the law, too.