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The logical consequence of this argument is for San Francisco to secede from the Union and build a wall around the city to stop foreign homeless people from com

The logical consequence of this argument is for San Francisco to secede from the Union and build a wall around the city to stop foreign homeless people from coming in. And blowing up BART too.

TechBro8615 4y ago
Alternatively, the SFPD could start arresting people for committing crimes, the DA could start charging them for crimes, and the judges could start sentencing them for crimes. And the legislators can make sleeping on the street a crime. Make it impossible to get drugs without significant risk. Discourage drug addicts from immigrating to SF as if it's some kind of heroin haven where they can live, sleep, shit and do drugs on the street. Or just let the inevitable earthquake take care of it.
- nwienert 4y ago
  This is the simple and obvious solution that works but for some reason liberalism post-Clinton took a shift towards being not just less pro law and order, but actively anti. Housing is certainly an ingredient in the soup. So is inequality. And corruption. A culture that is anti-family, consumerist, pro-drug, individualist. What else? There's so many factors. A lack of cohesive identity. The American attitude of narcissism and the fuck-you mentality. A lack of willingness to call out ghetto behavior as bad. Neutered teachers and schools preaching that all things are equally good and gradually lowering standards. Entire generations of families that basically feed into gangs. A lack of government ability/will to break up gangs. Incessant, unmitigated advertising. Government controlled media serving white-washed bullshit. Liberalism gone off the rails, generally. It's a mess.
- istjohn 4y ago
  The Supreme Court ruled that you can't criminalize sleeping on the street if there isn't shelter space available, so your dystopia in which people are jailed for existing in proximity to you without being rich isn't going to happen.
  - TechBro8615 4y ago
    Seems like SF is doing fine with their current dystopia.

The logical consequence of this argument is for San Francisco to secede from the Union and build a wall around the city to stop foreign homeless people from coming in. And blowing up BART too.

TechBro8615 4y ago

Alternatively, the SFPD could start arresting people for committing crimes, the DA could start charging them for crimes, and the judges could start sentencing them for crimes. And the legislators can make sleeping on the street a crime. Make it impossible to get drugs without significant risk. Discourage drug addicts from immigrating to SF as if it's some kind of heroin haven where they can live, sleep, shit and do drugs on the street. Or just let the inevitable earthquake take care of it.

nwienert 4y ago
This is the simple and obvious solution that works but for some reason liberalism post-Clinton took a shift towards being not just less pro law and order, but actively anti. Housing is certainly an ingredient in the soup. So is inequality. And corruption. A culture that is anti-family, consumerist, pro-drug, individualist. What else? There's so many factors. A lack of cohesive identity. The American attitude of narcissism and the fuck-you mentality. A lack of willingness to call out ghetto behavior as bad. Neutered teachers and schools preaching that all things are equally good and gradually lowering standards. Entire generations of families that basically feed into gangs. A lack of government ability/will to break up gangs. Incessant, unmitigated advertising. Government controlled media serving white-washed bullshit. Liberalism gone off the rails, generally. It's a mess.
istjohn 4y ago
The Supreme Court ruled that you can't criminalize sleeping on the street if there isn't shelter space available, so your dystopia in which people are jailed for existing in proximity to you without being rich isn't going to happen.
- TechBro8615 4y ago
  Seems like SF is doing fine with their current dystopia.