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I couldn't care less if it's phoning home by default, the data helps build a better product. Opt in telemetry is basically useless as you're self selecting for
by Jackevansevo 4y ago
I couldn't care less if it's phoning home by default, the data helps build a better product. Opt in telemetry is basically useless as you're self selecting for people that discover/care enough to enable the feature.
In a world where we have companies like Google/Facebook and massive levels of surveillance it's bizarre to me that this is the hill some of you want to die on.
The tools themselves provide a way to disable it, so I don't see what any of the fuss is about.
This happened recently with a telemetry proposal in the Go community and everyone threw their toys out of the pram. The Go team was forced to back peddle and now the telemetry collected by the toolchain is worse off because of this.
- fbdab103 4y agoGo famously does not listen to users. Am I to believe that the one thing holding back Go development was tabulated data?
- mseepgood 4y agoWhy do you say that when this is a prime example that they actually do listen to users?
- fbdab103 4y agoHa, fair point.
- Jackevansevo 4y agoExcept this time they did listen to users (to the detriment of their telemetry data)
- toastercat 4y agoThat's cool that you don't care, but some people do care, or else this site wouldn't exist in the first place.
- saagarjha 4y agoJust because Google or Facebook does something doesn’t mean everyone else should get away with something a little less bad.
- Jackevansevo 4y agoThere's an obvious difference between companies collecting and selling your data for profit and developer tooling collecting some metrics to improve the product.
- rat9988 4y agoThe difference doesn't justify spying on me though.
- cowl 4y agoOptout telemetry is illegal in Europe. Any connection that is not neccesary for the purpose of the tool is exposing the IP of the user without his consent. Pinky promises that IP of the connection will not be (ab)used do not count. See https://rewis.io/urteile/urteil/lhm-20-01-2022-3-o-1749320/ https://rewis.io/urteile/urteil/lhm-20-01-2022-3-o-1749320/ > It is sufficient that the defendant has the abstract possibility of identifying the persons behind the IP address. Whether the defendant or X. has the specific opportunity to link the IP address to the plaintiff is irrelevant.