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Note: (neo)liberal != left. Just because the Democrats are called "the left" (or even "the far left" on Fox News), doesn't mean they are. Look at the policies t

Note: (neo)liberal != left. Just because the Democrats are called "the left" (or even "the far left" on Fox News), doesn't mean they are. Look at the policies they support; are they pro-worker, pro-single payer, anti-war, anti-imperialist? No. So not "the left". Regardless of what they themselves or anybody else calls them, what matters is what policies they concretely support.

trafficante 3y ago
The modern atomized “far left” are the new Bible thumpers, except far more useful to the elite as their religious texts are fluid and ever-changing. They serve as arbiters of morality to keep the “normal” liberals in line and make certain the window of discussion never again approaches heretical talk of “nationalization” or “the 1%”. There’s still old school leftists around that strongly support the policies you described, but they’ve been essentially banished from the political sphere at even the metro level. Even the DSA has been nearly entirely co-opted by this quasi-religious garbage.
- softjobs 3y ago
  As Christopher Hitchens would say, "Religion poisons everything." That is why the separation of church and state is vitally important.
def_true_false 3y ago
Want to have your mind blown? The systems Americans call single payer are not all the same. And it's not a silver bullet either. The rest of your talking points is a little out of date -- the country most openly diplaying its imperialist mindset and also the one currently engaged in an offensive war is Russia.
- softjobs 3y ago
  I'm talking about https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1976 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1976. I didn't say it would be a silver bullet, but it would be a large improvement over what we have now, and save money in the long run to boot. Your words indicate your knowledge of the Ukraine conflict is lacking. But believe what you want. https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/ https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/
PixyMisa 3y ago
> Look at the policies they support; are they pro-worker, pro-single payer, anti-war, anti-imperialist? No. Neither was Stalin.

trafficante 3y ago

The modern atomized “far left” are the new Bible thumpers, except far more useful to the elite as their religious texts are fluid and ever-changing. They serve as arbiters of morality to keep the “normal” liberals in line and make certain the window of discussion never again approaches heretical talk of “nationalization” or “the 1%”. There’s still old school leftists around that strongly support the policies you described, but they’ve been essentially banished from the political sphere at even the metro level. Even the DSA has been nearly entirely co-opted by this quasi-religious garbage.

softjobs 3y ago
As Christopher Hitchens would say, "Religion poisons everything." That is why the separation of church and state is vitally important.

def_true_false 3y ago

Want to have your mind blown? The systems Americans call single payer are not all the same. And it's not a silver bullet either. The rest of your talking points is a little out of date -- the country most openly diplaying its imperialist mindset and also the one currently engaged in an offensive war is Russia.

softjobs 3y ago
I'm talking about https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1976 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1976. I didn't say it would be a silver bullet, but it would be a large improvement over what we have now, and save money in the long run to boot. Your words indicate your knowledge of the Ukraine conflict is lacking. But believe what you want. https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/ https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/

PixyMisa 3y ago

> Look at the policies they support; are they pro-worker, pro-single payer, anti-war, anti-imperialist? No. Neither was Stalin.