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I'm curious how much excess energy has been consumed, and won't be consumed any longer, as a result of this improvement - even just limited to reduced CPU usage

I'm curious how much excess energy has been consumed, and won't be consumed any longer, as a result of this improvement - even just limited to reduced CPU usage on Windows machines using Firefox to watch Youtube. I love thinking about the impacts of tiny improvements at scale like this, might do some napkin math on it later and see if I can come up with something in the right order of magnitude.

fsckboy 3y ago
firefox browser share is teeny tiny these days
- tomrod 3y ago
  Teeny tiny multiplied by 7 Billion by 365 days per year by 24 hours per day by a fraction of a kW does add up.
  - beAbU 3y ago
    7B people are not watching youtube on Firefox 24/7 365 days a year.
    - mulmen 3y ago
      But at any given moment someone is.
    - tomrod 3y ago
      Correct. Some teeny tiny fraction of market share is. For the conceptual calculation, I refer you to my earlier comment.
  - jdthedisciple 3y ago
    *8 Billion sir https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
    - tomrod 3y ago
      Oh no! My mistake.
- botanical 3y ago
  It's 200 million people, with 80% on Windows. https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware
2ICofafireteam 3y ago
Next: Canadian cars and their daytime running lights.
- wongarsu 3y ago
  Running lights during daytime seems to reduce crashes by about 5-10%, and crashes consume a lot of energy. Depending on crash severity there's at a minimum the wasted time for all involved parties and frequently the necessity for repairs (including the production of replacement parts, paint etc), and at the high end the involvement of emergency personnel and their vehicles, hospital beds, doctors, the production of entire new cars as replacement for totaled ones, etc. I'm not so sure that running lights isn't a net positive, especially with the introduction of LED lights.
  - account42 3y ago
    On the other hand, crashes also kill people who will then stop be using any energy.
- WirelessGigabit 3y ago
  Even LED DLRs?
- speedgoose 3y ago
  Next: internal combustion engines doing more heat than torque.
  - pmontra 3y ago
    That's a feature in winter. Portable propane heaters for cars are a thing. I think they'll sell a lot for EV cars.
    - speedgoose 3y ago
      I don’t know. It’s not a thing in Norway and we have plenty of gaz, electric cars, and cold weather.
sixothree 3y ago
Now calculate the man years lost to fixing strings represented as exponents in excel.

fsckboy 3y ago

firefox browser share is teeny tiny these days

tomrod 3y ago
Teeny tiny multiplied by 7 Billion by 365 days per year by 24 hours per day by a fraction of a kW does add up.
- beAbU 3y ago
  7B people are not watching youtube on Firefox 24/7 365 days a year.
  - mulmen 3y ago
    But at any given moment someone is.
  - tomrod 3y ago
    Correct. Some teeny tiny fraction of market share is. For the conceptual calculation, I refer you to my earlier comment.
- jdthedisciple 3y ago
  *8 Billion sir https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
  - tomrod 3y ago
    Oh no! My mistake.
botanical 3y ago
It's 200 million people, with 80% on Windows. https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware

2ICofafireteam 3y ago

Next: Canadian cars and their daytime running lights.

wongarsu 3y ago
Running lights during daytime seems to reduce crashes by about 5-10%, and crashes consume a lot of energy. Depending on crash severity there's at a minimum the wasted time for all involved parties and frequently the necessity for repairs (including the production of replacement parts, paint etc), and at the high end the involvement of emergency personnel and their vehicles, hospital beds, doctors, the production of entire new cars as replacement for totaled ones, etc. I'm not so sure that running lights isn't a net positive, especially with the introduction of LED lights.
- account42 3y ago
  On the other hand, crashes also kill people who will then stop be using any energy.
WirelessGigabit 3y ago
Even LED DLRs?
speedgoose 3y ago
Next: internal combustion engines doing more heat than torque.
- pmontra 3y ago
  That's a feature in winter. Portable propane heaters for cars are a thing. I think they'll sell a lot for EV cars.
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    I don’t know. It’s not a thing in Norway and we have plenty of gaz, electric cars, and cold weather.

sixothree 3y ago

Now calculate the man years lost to fixing strings represented as exponents in excel.