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I am a democrat for over 15 years and I think we need to have some self reflection. It's time to look inwards and not throw rocks at people who criticize us. Ou

I am a democrat for over 15 years and I think we need to have some self reflection. It's time to look inwards and not throw rocks at people who criticize us. Our party has fallen. Classical liberalism has been abandoned. Our policies have real effects, to the point where people are fleeing to better places. The first step is to acknowledge the failures. And then rise up with greater understanding. We can't get past the first step.

ModernMech 4y ago
It's one thing to acknowledge failures and try to build based on what has failed in the past. But, on the other hand, a lot of people want us to return to policies that definitely didn't work. Stop and frisk, mass incarceration, drug wars, crackdowns, profiling, turning the police into a paramilitary force... these are not policies that have solved anything in the past, but they are all on the table right now. As soon as the problem is framed in right-wing terms, then the "solutions" above get proposed. Crime problem? Arrest people. Still a crime problem? Arrest more people. Not enough room to hold all the people in prison? Build more prisons. Still a crime problem? Arrest more people. This is the reason USA has the highest per capita prison population in the world (I think it might be #2 now after China because we let some people out). We don't want those solutions, so we refuse to frame the debate in right-wing terms.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  So your proposal is to accept status-quo? Sounds defeated and pessimistic. Perhaps our understanding of those solutions is off because it seems to be working elsewhere. What I've seen is wherever progressive policies land, it tends to ruin cities. It is now undeniable and part of mainstream culture: "Don't bring your politics with you". I won't be voting for democrats again. It's not the party that I stood for once.
  - ModernMech 4y ago
    Nope, my proposal is to move forward with new ideas. I heard lots of new ideas from lots of different people. Let's try those.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      That's a much better attitude. Check out new hampshire, one of the lowest homicide rates in the states while having the most relaxed gun laws in the states. Essentially, you can buy a gun in 15 mins. No questions asked. Libertarian ideas are gaining steam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project Most progressive ideas are flat out wrong but drummed incessantly through woke Academic madressas we call Universities. It's producing people at an alarming rate, almost 90% progressives right off the bat. Brainwashed.

ModernMech 4y ago

It's one thing to acknowledge failures and try to build based on what has failed in the past. But, on the other hand, a lot of people want us to return to policies that definitely didn't work. Stop and frisk, mass incarceration, drug wars, crackdowns, profiling, turning the police into a paramilitary force... these are not policies that have solved anything in the past, but they are all on the table right now. As soon as the problem is framed in right-wing terms, then the "solutions" above get proposed. Crime problem? Arrest people. Still a crime problem? Arrest more people. Not enough room to hold all the people in prison? Build more prisons. Still a crime problem? Arrest more people. This is the reason USA has the highest per capita prison population in the world (I think it might be #2 now after China because we let some people out). We don't want those solutions, so we refuse to frame the debate in right-wing terms.

systemvoltage 4y ago
So your proposal is to accept status-quo? Sounds defeated and pessimistic. Perhaps our understanding of those solutions is off because it seems to be working elsewhere. What I've seen is wherever progressive policies land, it tends to ruin cities. It is now undeniable and part of mainstream culture: "Don't bring your politics with you". I won't be voting for democrats again. It's not the party that I stood for once.
- ModernMech 4y ago
  Nope, my proposal is to move forward with new ideas. I heard lots of new ideas from lots of different people. Let's try those.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    That's a much better attitude. Check out new hampshire, one of the lowest homicide rates in the states while having the most relaxed gun laws in the states. Essentially, you can buy a gun in 15 mins. No questions asked. Libertarian ideas are gaining steam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project Most progressive ideas are flat out wrong but drummed incessantly through woke Academic madressas we call Universities. It's producing people at an alarming rate, almost 90% progressives right off the bat. Brainwashed.