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I'm still a little confused by your point. Your last comment seems to support what I and the other poster was saying. The residents (home owners new or old an

I'm still a little confused by your point. Your last comment seems to support what I and the other poster was saying. The residents (home owners new or old and renters are included in residents) caused this issue. You refer to them voting themselves into this mess as a bad habit. But who has that bad habit? The residents of course. Hence I lay the blame at the residents feet. I know numerous people that saw the writing on the wall and moved away from SF because they knew the end result (where we are today) of path the other residents were voting for. A quick google search (number of renters vs number of home owners in SF) says SF is 65% rental household. Not sure how accuracy of that but lets assume its reasonably accurate. That would mean the renters have a larger voting power than the homeowners. If the renters choose to vote against their interests or not vote for decades in my eyes they are to blame.

micromacrofoot 4y ago
The current renters are an entirely different class of people than the previous generations and they're generally young wealthy people working for tech companies. In my experience they do not care about the SF that the people they displaced built, and they're not at all politically active. The homeowners gradually took over through the dot-com era and again in the latest boom... there's no one (in numbers) left that cares enough about SF to stop them.
- keneda7 4y ago
  But yet again here you are arguing my point for me. The residents of SF caused this. If the current renters don't care enough to do something about it by voting in different politicians/policies are they not to blame? The population of SF (city) is ~815k. The voting portion of that population could vote in different politicians if they wanted too. They have not. Hence once again we are back at SF being the way it is because of the residents voted and continue to vote it that way. Also please remember the homeowners are residents too. The are exercising their right to vote the things they want. If the renters are not exercising their right because they just don't care or are not political active that is the RENTERS issue. No one else's. >>The homeowners gradually took over through the dot-com era and again in the latest boom... there's no one (in numbers) left that cares enough about SF to stop them. So what you are saying here is the residents of SF that are renting and not owners do not care enough to try and fix the issues. Or to put it another way, SF is the way it is because the residents refuse to do anything about it.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

The current renters are an entirely different class of people than the previous generations and they're generally young wealthy people working for tech companies. In my experience they do not care about the SF that the people they displaced built, and they're not at all politically active. The homeowners gradually took over through the dot-com era and again in the latest boom... there's no one (in numbers) left that cares enough about SF to stop them.

keneda7 4y ago
But yet again here you are arguing my point for me. The residents of SF caused this. If the current renters don't care enough to do something about it by voting in different politicians/policies are they not to blame? The population of SF (city) is ~815k. The voting portion of that population could vote in different politicians if they wanted too. They have not. Hence once again we are back at SF being the way it is because of the residents voted and continue to vote it that way. Also please remember the homeowners are residents too. The are exercising their right to vote the things they want. If the renters are not exercising their right because they just don't care or are not political active that is the RENTERS issue. No one else's. >>The homeowners gradually took over through the dot-com era and again in the latest boom... there's no one (in numbers) left that cares enough about SF to stop them. So what you are saying here is the residents of SF that are renting and not owners do not care enough to try and fix the issues. Or to put it another way, SF is the way it is because the residents refuse to do anything about it.