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This eco-authoritarianism needs to be stopped. When the day comes when people aren’t allowed to dress beautifully I know at least I will revolt. Today men and

by Gud 4y ago

This eco-authoritarianism needs to be stopped. When the day comes when people aren’t allowed to dress beautifully I know at least I will revolt. Today men and women have the ability to dress(and to look and feel good) more or less anyway they want(more freedom to dress how you like seems to correlate strongly with societies that are liveable… go figure). I’d rather let the world burn than live in it without beauty and beautiful people. We’re not robots to run the machines for rich people. God bless those “cheap rags” I say.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
> This eco-authoritarianism needs to be stopped. Just a little reminder that authoritarian is an insult, a couple little facts that might counter your fashion-authoritarianism I strongly believe the UN are kinda reliable as a source. https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/environmental-costs-fast-fashion https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/environmental-co... > I’d rather let the world burn than live in it without beauty and beautiful people. Have you got a subscription to "false dichotomy magazine"? You seems to reason only in two ways: your way or everybody else is stupid and has no taste whatsoever. I come from one of the most beautiful countries in the World, I am surrounded by beauty, a beauty that don't need to burn fossil fuels to keep being beautiful. > When the day comes when people aren’t allowed to dress beautifully That's exactly what nobody said. You're the only one saying that the only way to dress beautifully is by burning a planet (????) > I know at least I will revolt Yeah, about that, you won't. We all know that. Just, please, stop it. Being flamboyant is a form of art, you think you're Vivienne Westwood (which I actually met) but you're only a little insignificant imitator (edit: wrote hater, it wasn't the word I was looking for). > God bless those “cheap rags” I say. Lucky us God does not exist, cheap rags are a by-product of the ad industry. Thank them. EDIT: Now that I think about it, I wrote "not considering the environment". Isn't this the place where the rules advice us to Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith I, in good faith, didn't want to talk about the environmental damages, because they are so vast and undeniable, that it would have made the entire discussion pointless. We need to ban fast fashion because we need to, you would set the World on fire before that, I would put you on fire before having to take some more drastic measures so that you could dress in rags. And because it's immoral, unethical, and based on slavery. Besides, a lot of garments have already been produced, it's not like we are living in an era where there's a shortage of clothes and we need to constantly make something new or your wardrobe will be empty as will your soul! You can buy all my beautiful rags from the 70s-80s-90s for a luxury price, they are the real deal, do you want them or you just like rags that imitate the past, but are produced with new, cheaper, weaker, less durable materials? Let me know.
- Gud 4y ago
  Good luck to you in your future endeavors
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    You too!
version_five 4y ago
I agree with everything you're saying except I know at least I will revolt Well all let it happen. The time to push back had already passed. All the little "it's not a big deal, I'll push back when it's really important" stuff has already crept up on us. We'll be eating bugs in the cold and dark thinking, ok I'll push back when I have to eat a mealworm instead of a cricket... and people will call you a conspiracy theorist for suggesting they'll ever take the crickets away.
- Gud 4y ago
  Not me, man. I understand the situation. The powerful elites will try to impose their restrictions, but others will resist out of principle but more importantly out of greed. There are ways out from this path, don’t give up hope yet
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > The powerful elites will try to impose their restrictions Yeah, I totally see this happening: - ELITE-1: Men, we need to impose restrictions on these bastards! - ELITE-2: I agree, let's tell them to not procreate anymore! - ELITE-1: Are you kidding me? You call that restriction? - ELITE-3: What about a ban on ICE engines? - ELITE-1: it's nice, but I want to send a signal here! - ELITE-4: I got it! Let's ban fast fashion! - ELITE-1: YOU'RE A GENIUS!

by Gud 4y ago

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

> This eco-authoritarianism needs to be stopped. Just a little reminder that authoritarian is an insult, a couple little facts that might counter your fashion-authoritarianism I strongly believe the UN are kinda reliable as a source. https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/environmental-costs-fast-fashion https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/environmental-co... > I’d rather let the world burn than live in it without beauty and beautiful people. Have you got a subscription to "false dichotomy magazine"? You seems to reason only in two ways: your way or everybody else is stupid and has no taste whatsoever. I come from one of the most beautiful countries in the World, I am surrounded by beauty, a beauty that don't need to burn fossil fuels to keep being beautiful. > When the day comes when people aren’t allowed to dress beautifully That's exactly what nobody said. You're the only one saying that the only way to dress beautifully is by burning a planet (????) > I know at least I will revolt Yeah, about that, you won't. We all know that. Just, please, stop it. Being flamboyant is a form of art, you think you're Vivienne Westwood (which I actually met) but you're only a little insignificant imitator (edit: wrote hater, it wasn't the word I was looking for). > God bless those “cheap rags” I say. Lucky us God does not exist, cheap rags are a by-product of the ad industry. Thank them. EDIT: Now that I think about it, I wrote "not considering the environment". Isn't this the place where the rules advice us to Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith I, in good faith, didn't want to talk about the environmental damages, because they are so vast and undeniable, that it would have made the entire discussion pointless. We need to ban fast fashion because we need to, you would set the World on fire before that, I would put you on fire before having to take some more drastic measures so that you could dress in rags. And because it's immoral, unethical, and based on slavery. Besides, a lot of garments have already been produced, it's not like we are living in an era where there's a shortage of clothes and we need to constantly make something new or your wardrobe will be empty as will your soul! You can buy all my beautiful rags from the 70s-80s-90s for a luxury price, they are the real deal, do you want them or you just like rags that imitate the past, but are produced with new, cheaper, weaker, less durable materials? Let me know.

Gud 4y ago
Good luck to you in your future endeavors
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  You too!

version_five 4y ago

I agree with everything you're saying except I know at least I will revolt Well all let it happen. The time to push back had already passed. All the little "it's not a big deal, I'll push back when it's really important" stuff has already crept up on us. We'll be eating bugs in the cold and dark thinking, ok I'll push back when I have to eat a mealworm instead of a cricket... and people will call you a conspiracy theorist for suggesting they'll ever take the crickets away.

Gud 4y ago
Not me, man. I understand the situation. The powerful elites will try to impose their restrictions, but others will resist out of principle but more importantly out of greed. There are ways out from this path, don’t give up hope yet
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  > The powerful elites will try to impose their restrictions Yeah, I totally see this happening: - ELITE-1: Men, we need to impose restrictions on these bastards! - ELITE-2: I agree, let's tell them to not procreate anymore! - ELITE-1: Are you kidding me? You call that restriction? - ELITE-3: What about a ban on ICE engines? - ELITE-1: it's nice, but I want to send a signal here! - ELITE-4: I got it! Let's ban fast fashion! - ELITE-1: YOU'RE A GENIUS!