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Broken auto glass is pretty much the default in SF if you leave anything at all visible in a parked car. Pretty much anyone I’ve ever spoken to has had it happ

Broken auto glass is pretty much the default in SF if you leave anything at all visible in a parked car. Pretty much anyone I’ve ever spoken to has had it happen to them, and it happened to me 3 times. This is because there is simply no law enforcement response. On the other hand stabbings and murder are taken very seriously by law enforcement.

BurningFrog 4y ago
Here in Oakland, the saying is that OPD doesn't come out unless there is a body.
operatingthetan 4y ago
>This is because there is simply no law enforcement response. You're expecting the police to show up in a 60 second window? Do you realize how little time it takes to smash a window and leave?
- throwaway049 4y ago
  What part of their post indicated that expectation?
  - operatingthetan 4y ago
    They suggested that the break-ins occur because there is no police response. Police response would not stop break-ins in any city. Say I came to your car in the middle of the night and left a strange note on it and then walked away. Do you think there is any way that you could find me with no clues about who I am?
    - augment001 4y ago
      You’ve completely misunderstood. My comment said nothing about preventing car break-ins. I was pointing out that car break-ins are treated very differently from violent crime. If there is an inference to be drawn, I’d say it is that we should not act as if the two kinds of crime are equivalent.
- lebed2045 4y ago
  The most unthought response I see every time. “But what you expect cop gonna do”? There are millions things they could do if given insensitive. Imagine a startup that get paid for every busted criminal? Put a honey pot, install cameras, track license plates. It can be resolved in matters of weeks.
  - operatingthetan 4y ago
    People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. You think that a few honey pots and cameras will slow them down? Imaginative but unrealistic thinking. Someone stole some wood from my yard, and I have them on camera. What am I supposed to do with their image? How do you suggest I find them? Is it worth my billing rate to walk around the neighborhood with their image asking people where they might be for $30 worth of wood? Say we have a database of petty criminals, if I find them do you think they have the assets to pay for the glass and items from an auto break-in? The economic incentives are not aligned for a moonshot on stopping petty property crime.
    - projectazorian 4y ago
      And even if your random smash-and-grab thief does get busted, he's just going to be back on the street in a week or two. The US criminal justice system is not set up to handle these sorts of offenders, most of whom probably just require detox and social services.
    - floren 4y ago
      > People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. I assumed the same but based on reporting I've seen on SF local news, at least some of them are doing it out of cars. Pull up next to a likely target, dude jumps out of the passenger seat and takes a quick look, smash & grab if there's anything good, drive off.
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      > People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. I've lived in multiple cities and can say that this is wrong. I find that generally most people imagine these thefts are being done by homeless people on the streets but it's usually actually organized gangs driving in from Oakland. Same thing when I lived in DC, organized criminals driving in from SE DC to rob the rich neighborhoods.
PicassoCTs 4y ago
All it takes is ninja rocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_rocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_rocks

BurningFrog 4y ago

Here in Oakland, the saying is that OPD doesn't come out unless there is a body.

operatingthetan 4y ago

>This is because there is simply no law enforcement response. You're expecting the police to show up in a 60 second window? Do you realize how little time it takes to smash a window and leave?

throwaway049 4y ago
What part of their post indicated that expectation?
- operatingthetan 4y ago
  They suggested that the break-ins occur because there is no police response. Police response would not stop break-ins in any city. Say I came to your car in the middle of the night and left a strange note on it and then walked away. Do you think there is any way that you could find me with no clues about who I am?
  - augment001 4y ago
    You’ve completely misunderstood. My comment said nothing about preventing car break-ins. I was pointing out that car break-ins are treated very differently from violent crime. If there is an inference to be drawn, I’d say it is that we should not act as if the two kinds of crime are equivalent.
lebed2045 4y ago
The most unthought response I see every time. “But what you expect cop gonna do”? There are millions things they could do if given insensitive. Imagine a startup that get paid for every busted criminal? Put a honey pot, install cameras, track license plates. It can be resolved in matters of weeks.
- operatingthetan 4y ago
  People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. You think that a few honey pots and cameras will slow them down? Imaginative but unrealistic thinking. Someone stole some wood from my yard, and I have them on camera. What am I supposed to do with their image? How do you suggest I find them? Is it worth my billing rate to walk around the neighborhood with their image asking people where they might be for $30 worth of wood? Say we have a database of petty criminals, if I find them do you think they have the assets to pay for the glass and items from an auto break-in? The economic incentives are not aligned for a moonshot on stopping petty property crime.
  - projectazorian 4y ago
    And even if your random smash-and-grab thief does get busted, he's just going to be back on the street in a week or two. The US criminal justice system is not set up to handle these sorts of offenders, most of whom probably just require detox and social services.
  - floren 4y ago
    > People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. I assumed the same but based on reporting I've seen on SF local news, at least some of them are doing it out of cars. Pull up next to a likely target, dude jumps out of the passenger seat and takes a quick look, smash & grab if there's anything good, drive off.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > People breaking into cars in your area are driving to their thefts? In cities they just walk down the street looking for targets of opportunity. I've lived in multiple cities and can say that this is wrong. I find that generally most people imagine these thefts are being done by homeless people on the streets but it's usually actually organized gangs driving in from Oakland. Same thing when I lived in DC, organized criminals driving in from SE DC to rob the rich neighborhoods.

PicassoCTs 4y ago

All it takes is ninja rocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_rocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_rocks