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Sure is terrible, just weird that russians themselves just take it and don't stand up.
by jnsaff2 4y ago
Sure is terrible, just weird that russians themselves just take it and don't stand up.
- medo-bear 4y agoum they did, in 1917, like no one else, ever. too bad the whole thing took a wrong turn a decade later
- jnsaff2 4y agoSo they tried once a century ago, then gave up? How is this different from what I was asking? Nothing is done, violence is tolerated and glorified at home and exported to neighbors too.
- mikeyouse 4y agoThere have been many internal reform attempts in Russia, almost universally the leaders of each have been assassinated or imprisoned. It’s a very dangerous place to protest, especially now that they’ve invaded Ukraine and legalized mobilization.
- jnsaff2 4y agoI have a suspicion that the siloviki insiders are okay with the system as is. Plenty of stealing to be done at all levels. The others still take it without doing anything about it.
- codedokode 4y agoGood luck standing up against million of well armed, well paid and well trained national guards.
- jnsaff2 4y agoIranian school girls do that.
- codedokode 4y agoDid they win?
- jnsaff2 4y agoThey kept their dignity and earned mad respect from others. They may also win at some point.
- koonsolo 4y agoThe Ukrainians sure as hell won their Euromaidan.
- medo-bear 4y agoand lost a chunk of east ukraine
- koonsolo 4y agoSo you propose it's better to submit than fight for your freedom? That's your choice. Let's see where Ukraine is in 5 years and where Russia will be. Your mentality fits nicely in russian society. And in case you didn't notice, eastern Ukraine and Crimea is still Ukraine. Soon free from russian invaders.
- medo-bear 4y ago
- koonsolo 4y ago"Well armed and well trained" Sure, we've seen plenty of those in Ukraine. Also "well intoxicated"
- iavael 4y agoReally well armed and well trained elite police forces are not sent in Ukraine because they are needed in case of unrests. For battlefield there are poorly trained conscripts with rusty gear from 70s. Dictators like Putin or Saddam save their best guard even in toughest moments of war, because they know that they can loose war but can still be in power if their guard can protect them from their political enemies.
- foverzar 4y agoHonestly, not too much people take it here as seriously as you guys somewhere over there. Most just get skeptical of such stories the older they get, and this is unfortunately a consequence of personal empirical evidence. You expect the truth but instead get a story. As you grow older the story starts to feel rough, doesn't add up to experience and at some point turns into a complete Orwellian bullshit. Stories get treated as tabloid bs used as propaganda, and quite often this is hardly too far from the truth.
- jnsaff2 4y agoI see that a fresh batch of copium has been distributed.