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It is unsporting. The whole point of the exercise is for job seekers to show their chops and that, for some basic problems, that they can solve it without using
by bitops 15y ago
It is unsporting. The whole point of the exercise is for job seekers to show their chops and that, for some basic problems, that they can solve it without using Google.
For fun, I posted my info using curl, vi and not one Google search. A web developer with 2-3yrs of experience should reasonably be expected to be able to do this challenge.
- Cushman 15y agoMaybe, but personally I'd be pretty weirded out if someone who could figure out the significance and use of the string I posted could not figure out curl. Is that just me?
- bitops 15y agoBased on personal experience, I'd respectfully say it's just you. I do see your point, though. I've met plenty of people who could code up a simple web UI but weren't very familiar with the underlying HTTP protocol. I guess my point is that knowledge of the protocol and web infrastructure is more valuable (sometimes) than just being a person who knows how to slap something together. YMMV.
- ams6110 15y agoA lot of devs who only know Visual Studio have never even heard of curl and other unixy utilities.
- mkopinsky 15y agoCurl?? Real men use Telnet...
- nitrogen 15y agoTelnet is not the best thing to use when talking to non-telnet servers since it's not a raw protocol that just passes data back and forth. For example, telnet appends an ASCII NUL to any CR in the stream. Netcat gives a truly raw socket.
- mkopinsky 15y agoThanks, good to know.
- user24 15y agocompare: $ telnet www.example.com 80 Trying 192.0.43.10... Connected to www.example.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.example.com HTTP/1.0 302 Found Location: http://www.iana.org/domains/example/ Server: BigIP Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 0 ^] telnet> quit Connection closed. $ with: $ curl -i www.example.com HTTP/1.0 302 Found Location: http://www.iana.org/domains/example/ Server: BigIP Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 0 $ - Real men type less and do more.
- mkopinsky 15y agoOf course. Abstraction is important and powerful, and the right tool for the right job etc etc. But that still means there's a certain thrill in submitting HTTP POSTs via magnetized needle.
- bwooceli 15y agoHey team, maybe I'm wrong but I don't get the sense that this is a "test" for entry. It says more about who they are and what they're about than it does the applicants.
- mbesto 15y agoAgreed - more of a marketing ploy to catch the attention of their target demographic (people who use JSON).