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Because it doesn't matter which European capital. No country in western Europe has a higher homicide rate than the US.
by aqme28 4y ago
Because it doesn't matter which European capital. No country in western Europe has a higher homicide rate than the US.
- drstewart 4y ago>which European capital. Kiev, 2020-2022.
- aqme28 4y agoObvious there are some exceptions, but that's why I said "western europe." Pre-war Kyiv was still much much better than say St. Louis.
- bestcoder69 4y agoUSA! USA!
- komali2 4y agoWe found an example of a place more violent than most cities in the richest country on earth and possibly in all of human history! It's a city in a country engaged in a hot war!
- lucideer 4y agoI know your comment is tongue-in-cheek but the overall US homicide rate is comparable to the UN casualty count for the Russo-Ukraine war (most of which will be in Donbas, not Kyiv). So I wouldn't be completely certain the rate in Kyiv is necessarily higher. I don't think there's good figures but I'd wager it's actually lower than some US cities.
- coldtea 4y agoYes, a city torn in war is less safe than SF, I'll give you that! Might as well add Lagos too!
- bombcar 4y agoChicago has murder rates that eclipse actual wars.
- Grum9 4y agoAnd I hear they have new progressive mayor, close call there almost flew too close to the center https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/04/chicago-mayoral-election-polls-brandon-johnson-paul-vallas https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/04/chicago-mayo...
- collegeburner 4y agoit aint called chiraq for no reason you know
- jen20 4y agoPer Wikipedia, in 2019 there were 1428 murders across Ukraine (perhaps this includes the already-invaded Donbas and Luhansk regions, though I somewhat doubt it). Let's assume all of those happened in Kiev, with a population of 2.8 million (since I can't find more specific data easily right now). That gives a wildly inflated homicide rate per 100,000 population of 51. St Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham (AL) all had murder rates that year higher than this inflated figure. I don't think it's in dispute that most European capitals of any size have areas where one could easily get murdered, though. I can personally easily think of areas of London and Paris where I'd not be surprised by news of it happening.
- ekianjo 4y agokiev is hardly what comes to mind when talking about european capitals.
- that_guy_iain 4y agoI dunno, London is getting up there. I'm sure London, England has more murders per captia than quite a few major US cities.
- aqme28 4y agoAt about 1.4 it's still pretty low compared to American cities. It's also not really "getting up there" as it appears to be on a relative decline lately.
- that_guy_iain 4y agoThat decline comes round about when they started to cut police funding. Curious. Kinda like they stopped finding the bodies.
- aqme28 4y agohttps://www.statista.com/statistics/864491/london-police-budget-size/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/864491/london-police-bud... Not really sure what you're talking about.
- that_guy_iain 4y agoThe stats you link to a meaningless. The city of London don't set the budget for their police. That is a matter handled by the British goverment and according to them they've been decreasing it for 8-years straight. > When compared with the previous year, overall funding for policing (including any in-year adjustments) for the financial year ending March 2023 will increase by 2.8% in real terms. This will be the eighth consecutive year in which policing funding has increased in real terms https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/police-funding-for-england-and-wales-2015-to-2023/police-funding-for-england-and-wales-2015-to-2023 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/police-funding-for-...
- bestcoder69 4y ago[flagged]