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Screaming "homophobia" the very second someone opposes your mental model of the world, is deliberate victimisation. I have no phobia of homosexuality. And I di

Screaming "homophobia" the very second someone opposes your mental model of the world, is deliberate victimisation. I have no phobia of homosexuality. And I did read the comment.

DoreenMichele 4y ago
You seem to have missed the flow of events here. I mentioned homophobia before you commented, not as some kind of characterization of you in specific. Other people chiming in to suggest you are homophobic or your comments are homophobic is not something I have control over. Acting like I am playing the victim card based on that is ridiculous.
foldr 4y ago
I'm mentioning homophobia because you've suggested that being LGBTQ is often caused by an underlying mental illness (doubling down on this claim here: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=4gotunameagain https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=4gotunameagain), and because you've suggested that anyone who claims that homophobia is prevalent (in the 'coastal US', at least) is acting in bad faith and 'deliberately victimizing' themselves. Now you seem to be playing semantic games regarding the meaning of 'homophobia'. I won't try to change your mind here, but I think the majority of HNers will easily be able to see what I'm referring to. On top of all that, this whole discussion resulted from one bullet point in a comment on an article that literally has nothing to do with LGBTQ people or homophobia. And yet you feel the need to argue all of these points here.
- greatDEBONKER 4y ago
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  - foldr 4y ago
    I disagree on this point. The idea that being gay or trans is a form of (or consequence of) mental illness is inherently homophobic. So is the idea that LGBTQ people 'deliberately victimize' themselves. There is no bad faith here. Remember that you my also be exposed to points of view that you don't like – such as the one I just expressed. Edit: I'd ask one question in response to your comment. You say that due to limitations of current scientific knowledge, 'one cannot claim without any certainty that LGBTQ is not caused by mental illness'. Ok, then can we be certain that being straight is not caused by mental illness? Which scientific studies could one cite to support or refute that claim?
    - greatDEBONKER 4y ago
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Screaming "homophobia" the very second someone opposes your mental model of the world, is deliberate victimisation. I have no phobia of homosexuality. And I did read the comment.

DoreenMichele 4y ago

You seem to have missed the flow of events here. I mentioned homophobia before you commented, not as some kind of characterization of you in specific. Other people chiming in to suggest you are homophobic or your comments are homophobic is not something I have control over. Acting like I am playing the victim card based on that is ridiculous.

foldr 4y ago

I'm mentioning homophobia because you've suggested that being LGBTQ is often caused by an underlying mental illness (doubling down on this claim here: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=4gotunameagain https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=4gotunameagain), and because you've suggested that anyone who claims that homophobia is prevalent (in the 'coastal US', at least) is acting in bad faith and 'deliberately victimizing' themselves. Now you seem to be playing semantic games regarding the meaning of 'homophobia'. I won't try to change your mind here, but I think the majority of HNers will easily be able to see what I'm referring to. On top of all that, this whole discussion resulted from one bullet point in a comment on an article that literally has nothing to do with LGBTQ people or homophobia. And yet you feel the need to argue all of these points here.

greatDEBONKER 4y ago
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- foldr 4y ago
  I disagree on this point. The idea that being gay or trans is a form of (or consequence of) mental illness is inherently homophobic. So is the idea that LGBTQ people 'deliberately victimize' themselves. There is no bad faith here. Remember that you my also be exposed to points of view that you don't like – such as the one I just expressed. Edit: I'd ask one question in response to your comment. You say that due to limitations of current scientific knowledge, 'one cannot claim without any certainty that LGBTQ is not caused by mental illness'. Ok, then can we be certain that being straight is not caused by mental illness? Which scientific studies could one cite to support or refute that claim?
  - greatDEBONKER 4y ago
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