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Given the current state of voters, ranked choice seems like the best way to break the logjam by creating situations where palatable-to-all get elected over love
by ethbr0 4y ago
Given the current state of voters, ranked choice seems like the best way to break the logjam by creating situations where palatable-to-all get elected over loved-by-most-hated-by-many.
- refurb 4y agoThat’s exactly how Chesa Boudin got elected to DA in SF - ranked choice.
- ethbr0 4y agoIt can be a bad option, but still the best of the alternatives.
- refurb 4y agoYou can look up who lost. Basically an “old timer” Democrat and a “hard(er) on crime upstart”. Not sure we got the least worst.
- ethbr0 4y agoI meant ranked choice can be the least worst way of conducting democratic elections. Individual results will still rightly depend on voters. You can blunt the attraction of extremism, but hearts and minds need shifting before voters will take a fundamentally different approach.
- toyg 4y agoThe alternatives might have been even worse.
- _vertigo 4y agoBoudin got the most votes in the first round. He would have won in first past the post too.
- mindslight 4y agoRanked Choice Condorcet. Instant Runoff is a band aid for the most glaring failing of the plurality system, but it doesn't actually support moving away from the two party system. Most places that have adopted IRV seem to have mitigated its failings by having multiple election stages, but we'd be better off with a voting system that directly chooses the winner from the entire field of candidates (when that's possible).
- ethbr0 4y agoThe downside of high-plurality systems is the lack of voter knowledge, especially without the historical press function. I'd support that if it were coupled with multiple-choice position forms that were required to be filled out by each candidate, covering core issues and options. That is, no free response, not-an-answer answers.
- mindslight 4y agoGiven the type of candidates that tend to occupy the low plurality spots, I'd say that problem is there regardless. But yes, I totally agree with your proposal. I can even see it helping with cutting through all the boilerplate verbiage candidates are having to use to pay respects to various things, and return some focus on actual policies.
- ethbr0 4y agoVote Smart tried to do something similar... but the effective end result was that few candidates wanted to go on the record. https://votesmart.org/for-candidates/ https://votesmart.org/for-candidates/ Which is a shame, because "knowing what you're voting for" seems like a critical component of democracy, and campaign ads are useless (and expensive).