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> Even worse, it is unclear to me how to change the prompt to move the image towards the image I want. An image program I use has sliders for things called "Hi

> Even worse, it is unclear to me how to change the prompt to move the image towards the image I want. An image program I use has sliders for things called "High", "Low ", and "Gamma". I don't know what these mean, but I can immediately see the effects they have when I use them. I can also reverse the effects back to the original image by putting them back. I don't know if AI could easily reverse back changes, at least over a couple of iterations. But I wonder if things like sliders or knobs could be added to AI interfaces to allow more gradual iteration of a text or image, or idea of a text or image, than having the AI generate an iteration based on a new plain text prompt, or even "conversational interface". You could have a ton of sliders with names that the user doesn't understand. You could link sliders together so that moving one moves them all, and then unlink individual ones as desired to see what they do. This would provide more immediate and tailorable feedback than trying to get your words just right.

dendrite9 4y ago
A while ago someone posted https://www.calligrapher.ai/ https://www.calligrapher.ai/ (discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530011) The sliders were interesting and generally useful but I found it frustrating that they were not repeatable. Since then I've started to think I was approaching the sliders the wrong way by assuming they directly controlled the output, rather than being weights in one direction or another.
danybittel 4y ago
Totally agree. Something like: http://vecg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/Projects/projects_fonts/projects_fonts.html http://vecg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/Projects/projects_fonts/projects_fo... but not only for fonts.
8n4vidtmkvmk 4y ago
there are sliders for things like "cfg" and "denoising" and various other things. with some trial and error you can figure out what they do and how to tune them, the issue is that image generation still takes 10 or 30 seconds so it's not a quick process. but yes, I'd still welcome more dials. more is a bigger pain to get started but useful after you figure them out
anonymouskimmer 4y ago
Maybe ways to freeze what you like and iterate the rest? Not just parts of an image, or particular phrases in a text, but stylistic elements such as shadows or shapes or colors or tenses and word usage.

dendrite9 4y ago

A while ago someone posted https://www.calligrapher.ai/ https://www.calligrapher.ai/ (discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530011) The sliders were interesting and generally useful but I found it frustrating that they were not repeatable. Since then I've started to think I was approaching the sliders the wrong way by assuming they directly controlled the output, rather than being weights in one direction or another.

danybittel 4y ago

Totally agree. Something like: http://vecg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/Projects/projects_fonts/projects_fonts.html http://vecg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/Projects/projects_fonts/projects_fo... but not only for fonts.

8n4vidtmkvmk 4y ago

there are sliders for things like "cfg" and "denoising" and various other things. with some trial and error you can figure out what they do and how to tune them, the issue is that image generation still takes 10 or 30 seconds so it's not a quick process. but yes, I'd still welcome more dials. more is a bigger pain to get started but useful after you figure them out

anonymouskimmer 4y ago

Maybe ways to freeze what you like and iterate the rest? Not just parts of an image, or particular phrases in a text, but stylistic elements such as shadows or shapes or colors or tenses and word usage.