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The carrier told me to contact apple. And in my case, I can’t exactly harass all my neighbors to disable their “free hotspot”. I should be able to control my o

The carrier told me to contact apple. And in my case, I can’t exactly harass all my neighbors to disable their “free hotspot”. I should be able to control my own phone and dictate what it does/does not connect to.

m463 4y ago
> I should be able to control my own phone That battle was lost a long time ago. I should be able to restrict (or know) what the apps do. I should be able to firewall my phone. I should be able to access the files on it. But in the end, only apple decides this, and their decisions are self-serving.
- marktangotango 4y ago
  Sheesh, a linux phone can't come fast enough.
  - fsflover 4y ago
    What do you mean? Sent from my Librem 5.
rolph 4y ago
morally you cant but actually you can, go to a few thift shops, get enough routers to cover all channels, create many screaming imposter networks portal eachone to something not pretty, soon[day or 2] you will see the original network gone. beware of FCC.
- quesera 4y ago
  This is perfectly legal, FCC will not care. But it will not work.
  - rolph 4y ago
    saturating the air with [SSID] at high dB across all channels absolutely will work, it compels the operator of [SSID] to turn it off and buy another router. the high dB signal is where the FCC Will care.
    - quesera 4y ago
      There is no way ATT is going to abandon the attwifi SSID. You did not mention exceeding Part 15 emitter limits in your previous post.
      - rolph 4y ago
        screaming was mentioned, and im not talking about making ATT abandon the attwifi SSID im talking about the end user abandoning the onsite equipment.
    - lxgr 4y ago
      That’s not how 802.11 works. If your device can’t connect to a given BSSID that’s broadcasting an SSID it wants, it will put that BSSID on an ignore list and try the next one, whatever the received signal strength. You can of course saturate the entire spectrum, but that breaks every network, not just the SSIDs you’re "waging war" against, and will probably get you a visit by the FCC sooner or later. Maybe you could broadcast thousands of spoofed BSSIDs; I have no idea about the legality of that, and the legitimate operator of the SSID might not find that too funny and take legal action against you as well, as that would be pretty transparent denial of service on a public band.
      - rolph 4y ago
        yes you have it right. this has been done in the past, and can still be done. legally, you dont want to do it. i have had experiences with seeing my SSID coming from a router that is not mine, and the nieghbor basically said effoff ill do what i want. in that case i did what i want as well.
        lxgr 4y ago

m463 4y ago

> I should be able to control my own phone That battle was lost a long time ago. I should be able to restrict (or know) what the apps do. I should be able to firewall my phone. I should be able to access the files on it. But in the end, only apple decides this, and their decisions are self-serving.

marktangotango 4y ago
Sheesh, a linux phone can't come fast enough.
- fsflover 4y ago
  What do you mean? Sent from my Librem 5.

rolph 4y ago

morally you cant but actually you can, go to a few thift shops, get enough routers to cover all channels, create many screaming imposter networks portal eachone to something not pretty, soon[day or 2] you will see the original network gone. beware of FCC.

quesera 4y ago
This is perfectly legal, FCC will not care. But it will not work.
- rolph 4y ago
  saturating the air with [SSID] at high dB across all channels absolutely will work, it compels the operator of [SSID] to turn it off and buy another router. the high dB signal is where the FCC Will care.
  - quesera 4y ago
    There is no way ATT is going to abandon the attwifi SSID. You did not mention exceeding Part 15 emitter limits in your previous post.
    - rolph 4y ago
      screaming was mentioned, and im not talking about making ATT abandon the attwifi SSID im talking about the end user abandoning the onsite equipment.
  - lxgr 4y ago
    That’s not how 802.11 works. If your device can’t connect to a given BSSID that’s broadcasting an SSID it wants, it will put that BSSID on an ignore list and try the next one, whatever the received signal strength. You can of course saturate the entire spectrum, but that breaks every network, not just the SSIDs you’re "waging war" against, and will probably get you a visit by the FCC sooner or later. Maybe you could broadcast thousands of spoofed BSSIDs; I have no idea about the legality of that, and the legitimate operator of the SSID might not find that too funny and take legal action against you as well, as that would be pretty transparent denial of service on a public band.
    - rolph 4y ago
      yes you have it right. this has been done in the past, and can still be done. legally, you dont want to do it. i have had experiences with seeing my SSID coming from a router that is not mine, and the nieghbor basically said effoff ill do what i want. in that case i did what i want as well.
      - lxgr 4y ago