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>But society stops minors from doing all sorts of harmful behaviors, like drinking, drugs, gambling, guns etc. None of which affect my freedoms. >not allow pe

>But society stops minors from doing all sorts of harmful behaviors, like drinking, drugs, gambling, guns etc. None of which affect my freedoms. >not allow personal information to be used I 100% agree with this. If a kid can't consent for anything else, how can they consent for their data being collected and processed? >I don't think this is some loss of freedom we need to worry about. You may not worry, but I do. Online anonymity is important for people ruled by shady governments, and there is no guaranteeing your government won't become a shady one in your lifetime. There are multiple examples of this worldwide, both in the past and present.

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andy_ppp 4y ago
> It is not the government's or the society's responsibility to babysit your kids My point is that the government do try to protect children from various harms, why not social media?
- atahanacar 4y ago
  The reasoning is simple: If it were the government's responsibility to babysit your kids, it would be acceptable for them to restrict my freedoms in doing so. However, it is neither their, society's nor my responsibility, so my freedoms shouldn't be restricted for that cause. If it doesn't restrict my freedoms, I don't care, government can do whatever parents want, whether it be ban the sale of alcohol to kids, stop them from gambling or whatever.
  - andy_ppp 4y ago
    I understand your reasoning I’d just rather we were more careful about how social media works, especially the use of LLMs integrated into advertising and addiction systems, for example. I think you already seem to think I have a fully formed plan of what the regulations should be, I definitely don’t want infringe free speech but I think teens are especially vulnerable to abuse on these platforms and suicide amongst teenage girls particularly has increased as these systems became more mainstream. I think there is a balance to be had here but I get that you disagree and are scared of government getting it wrong.
    - atahanacar 4y ago
      >I understand your reasoning I’d just rather we were more careful about how social media works, especially the use of LLMs integrated into advertising and addiction systems, for example. I completely agree. >teens are especially vulnerable to abuse on these platforms Not only on these platforms, but everywhere else too. What we definitely need is more support programs for these people, and more education for both them, their parents and society in general. Mental health is an issue that still is not being given enough attention to.

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andy_ppp 4y ago

> It is not the government's or the society's responsibility to babysit your kids My point is that the government do try to protect children from various harms, why not social media?

atahanacar 4y ago
The reasoning is simple: If it were the government's responsibility to babysit your kids, it would be acceptable for them to restrict my freedoms in doing so. However, it is neither their, society's nor my responsibility, so my freedoms shouldn't be restricted for that cause. If it doesn't restrict my freedoms, I don't care, government can do whatever parents want, whether it be ban the sale of alcohol to kids, stop them from gambling or whatever.
- andy_ppp 4y ago
  I understand your reasoning I’d just rather we were more careful about how social media works, especially the use of LLMs integrated into advertising and addiction systems, for example. I think you already seem to think I have a fully formed plan of what the regulations should be, I definitely don’t want infringe free speech but I think teens are especially vulnerable to abuse on these platforms and suicide amongst teenage girls particularly has increased as these systems became more mainstream. I think there is a balance to be had here but I get that you disagree and are scared of government getting it wrong.
  - atahanacar 4y ago
    >I understand your reasoning I’d just rather we were more careful about how social media works, especially the use of LLMs integrated into advertising and addiction systems, for example. I completely agree. >teens are especially vulnerable to abuse on these platforms Not only on these platforms, but everywhere else too. What we definitely need is more support programs for these people, and more education for both them, their parents and society in general. Mental health is an issue that still is not being given enough attention to.