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Settings/Wifi/edit/scroll down to “managed networks” These are networks added by your carrier you can’t remove. They have equal priority to your real networks.
by newZWhoDis 4y ago
Settings/Wifi/edit/scroll down to “managed networks”
These are networks added by your carrier you can’t remove. They have equal priority to your real networks.
In my case, 2 neighbors have freebie wifi/modem combos blasting out 1-bar hotspots that match my carriers free hotspot SSIDs, so all my family’s personal devices constantly switch between my real home network and these “hot spots” with no way to stop it short of removing everyone’s SIMs
- diebeforei485 4y agoI am able to disable "Auto-join" on those, but I don't have these WiFi hotspots near me so I can't test if that Auto-join toggle actually works.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoWait 4-5 minutes and open the menu again. In my case I disable auto join on all and they’re all back on in 4-5 minutes. I was also able to verify this as the device will still really connect to the “disabled” hot spots, even after switching it off. Just took a while for the profile to resync. Edit: only 5 of 9 re-enable auto join after I disable it.
- diebeforei485 4y agoIt's been more than five minutes, I opened the menu again and it's still disabled. I'm on an iPhone 12 Pro Max on iOS 16.4, which is the latest iOS. > even after switching it off This might be your issue, because after a restart your iPhone no longer has access to your saved Wi-Fi credentials, but it can still use EAP-SIM to join T-Mobile's Wi-Fi network first. But I see your point that it does not respect the "Auto-join" toggle.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoSorry, to clarify my device will reconnect to a carrier-managed hotspot that has had auto-join manually disabled without a reboot within 4-5 minutes.
- diebeforei485 4y agoYeah, that's probably a bug. If this happens often enough to annoy you, you could file this bug with Apple by typing "applefeedback:///" into Safari. It could take some guesswork to figure out what component to file this against.
- rurp 4y agoDoes Apple ever respond to bug reports? I've only ever heard of them disappearing into the void. Beyond that though, users shouldn't have to file bugs against hostile features like this. Spreading the word as widely as possible about Apple's behavior here is likely to be far more effective.
- FateOfNations 4y agoApparently they don't normally respond to them directly but they do look at/analyze them. Once in a blue moon you'll hear about someone getting contacted by an Apple engineer for more information.
- jxramos 4y agolooks like a few of mine resynced and toggled auto join. My iPad has none of these managed network entities at all, seems to be a phone thing only. Looks like comcast xfinity type networks are being imposed too. The xfinity App may be toggling these XFI, Xfinity Mobile, xfinitywifi pieces your way too.
- FateOfNations 4y agoThe Xfinity ones show up only after you install a profile from the Xfinity app or website, and manually enable it in Settings. The Xfinity hotspot service typically has two SSIDs going: "xfinitywifi", which is unencrypted and has a captive portal to log in, and the "XFINITY" network, which the installing the profile enables access to and which is encrypted with 802.1X authentication. For everyone except apparently the carriers, Apple is very strict about the opt in nature of managed WiFi networks.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoI have devices with 0 Comcast apps and 0 profiles but they all have the Xfinity managed networks, the only thing they have in common is the cellular service.
- vxNsr 4y agoI'm on 16.2 and this is an issue here too
- sundvor 4y agoAppalling. You'd need an extremely strong reality distortion field to advocate for it. I can only guess it's a way for the telcos to offload 5g traffic. In the Android world, if Samsung/Telstra introduced something similar in Australia that'd be enough for me to jump ship to another manufacturer that didn't. There's an auto-enabled "Hotspot 2.0" feature that I've turned off; it's not ideal that it's on by default but for people on lesser data plans it could be convenient. It's a simple toggle to turn off, nothing's forced.
- tekknik 4y agoHow does this offload traffic? That wifi router is likely a 5G home internet router which is connecting to the same tower. So while connected clients would reduce, bandwidth usage would not as these devices are not powerful enough to run any meaningful caching services.
- sundvor 4y agoFair question! My assumption was that the wifi access points would be connected to eg gigabit fttp, not wireless.
- unethical_ban 4y agoI could see a system where carriers partner with cities to install wifi at crowded locations, preset a carrier provided password and use that for better service than 5g. But I am shocked that they would force connection to open ssids.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoI’m not shocked the carrier would try, I’m shocked the OS lets the carrier dictate this with no user recourse.
- cyxxon 4y agoI do not have that section under Settings/WiFi. Does that mean tht my carrier simply has not added any managed networks, or should this section always be there, even if it is empty? Or is this a US thing, as I am in Germany?
- RetpolineDrama 4y agoI see it under Settings/WiFi/Edit, scroll to the bottom
- croutonwagon 4y agoIts at the top right, where the "next" button normally is. Blue ink. Probably not a US thing. Its an IOS thing as that is where you can delete/forget networks you have joined (that arent in range anymore)
- cyxxon 4y agoThanks, yes, I have it too. Must have had a brainfart yesterday.