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None of this should be an issue if there was a judge in the loop.

• scarface74 3y ago
  You trust judges to do the right thing? The time period that this happens encompasses both Trump and Biden - meaning you can’t trust the government not to trample your rights no matter who is in power.
  • stonogo 3y ago
    What alternative are you proposing?
    • scarface74 3y ago
      Remove the tools by passing narrower laws.
      • garbagecoder 3y ago
        You trust the judges to follow the narrower laws but not the existing ones? You make zero sense.
  • garbagecoder 3y ago
    If I can't trust judges will get it right mostly then what does it matter what the law says? If there's no bottom who cares? If everyone is corrupt and nothing matters then what do you suggest? At least paranoid libertarians used to be in favor of more due process, which is what I'm suggesting. Now what do you suggest then? The fact is there will always be business record subpoenas as long as we have a justice system. At least with a judge someone can decide whether it's being used correctly. All of this data is out there. If that's your objection, make it. But we will always be able to collect it if it matters. At least with some process it will be less likely to be abused.