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I think his point is: taking a teaspoon of water out of the ocean and bolding marching back into town proclaiming you fought ocean level rise is a little dising

I think his point is: taking a teaspoon of water out of the ocean and bolding marching back into town proclaiming you fought ocean level rise is a little disingenuous.

nebula8804 4y ago
> taking a teaspoon of water out of the ocean A teaspoon is the wrong terminology in the context of Oregon given they produce 0.7% of the US's CO2 emissions. Because they are already producing so little CO2 a teaspoon elsewhere is a large improvement there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... > and bolding marching back into town proclaiming you fought ocean level rise is a little disingenuous given this is Oregon we are talking about, their idea of enacting meaningful change is different from other states idea of meaningful changes just due to the fact that Oregon has so much green energy already. So these little changes get them further to 100% reduction much easier and thus are meaningful in this context. Reading the article Amazon wanted to increase natural gas capacity because the biofuels are not yet ready in Oregon. It makes less sense to do this in a state like Oregon. Why are they even there in the first place? I assume it due to the cheap electricity (thanks in part to the natural renewable energy sources they already have)
- exabrial 4y ago
  You’re seriously saying .0084 * (the total carbon emissions) is doing anything useful?
paulryanrogers 4y ago
This analogy seems out of proportion itself. There is only so much arable land on earth, and a large state is probably single digit percentage. Its energy needs are likely significant, even in the big picture.
more_corn 4y ago
Who are you criticizing? Oregon for attempting to limit emissions? Amazon for lying about caring about climate change? (And then blocking efforts to improve emissions) Keep in mind that Amazon through AWS runs the servers for a large majority of the sites we think of as the internet. So when the company claims to care about climate change, then gives lie to that with their actions it really does make a difference. A huge negative, dangerous, unwise difference.

I think his point is: taking a teaspoon of water out of the ocean and bolding marching back into town proclaiming you fought ocean level rise is a little disingenuous.

nebula8804 4y ago

> taking a teaspoon of water out of the ocean A teaspoon is the wrong terminology in the context of Oregon given they produce 0.7% of the US's CO2 emissions. Because they are already producing so little CO2 a teaspoon elsewhere is a large improvement there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... > and bolding marching back into town proclaiming you fought ocean level rise is a little disingenuous given this is Oregon we are talking about, their idea of enacting meaningful change is different from other states idea of meaningful changes just due to the fact that Oregon has so much green energy already. So these little changes get them further to 100% reduction much easier and thus are meaningful in this context. Reading the article Amazon wanted to increase natural gas capacity because the biofuels are not yet ready in Oregon. It makes less sense to do this in a state like Oregon. Why are they even there in the first place? I assume it due to the cheap electricity (thanks in part to the natural renewable energy sources they already have)

exabrial 4y ago
You’re seriously saying .0084 * (the total carbon emissions) is doing anything useful?

paulryanrogers 4y ago

This analogy seems out of proportion itself. There is only so much arable land on earth, and a large state is probably single digit percentage. Its energy needs are likely significant, even in the big picture.

more_corn 4y ago

Who are you criticizing? Oregon for attempting to limit emissions? Amazon for lying about caring about climate change? (And then blocking efforts to improve emissions) Keep in mind that Amazon through AWS runs the servers for a large majority of the sites we think of as the internet. So when the company claims to care about climate change, then gives lie to that with their actions it really does make a difference. A huge negative, dangerous, unwise difference.