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> thank you for answering my question of how you know a condition that you are familiar with from your country holds sway the world over. Individual countries,

> thank you for answering my question of how you know a condition that you are familiar with from your country holds sway the world over. Individual countries, even ones as populous with humans as China or India, or as populous with dogs as the US, don't matter for the total aggregate of record keeping. The record keeping status of an individual country is just an anecdote. It's the plural of a super-majority of the human or dog populations that become data. > but I wouldn't be saying the dog is 23 years old if I've only known it for 20 years People are arguing in this thread that this exact scenario happened as a conspiracy between multiple humans for Calment. It's true that these conspiracies could exist, whether for humans, or for dogs. Bad record keeping could make it easier for dogs. Bad record keeping would also make it easier for a very long lived dog to not be recorded (though this is much less likely, as dogs over the age of 20 are something to remark on, and feral dogs generally don't live nearly that long).

bryanrasmussen 4y ago
>It's true that these conspiracies could exist, whether for humans, or for dogs. Bad record keeping could make it easier for dogs the conspiracies would be more likely to have a payoff for humans though, and in the case of dogs as pointed out, all the humans that would be in charge of making a claim and that it lives among have probably lived as long as that dog or significantly longer. As well as that there are probably lots of people who know the dog that have lived as long or longer, therefore, for any dog that it is likely somebody will make a claim about there are probably lots of people who would be able to contest the claim. So in short, less profit, more people to dispute claims, either you have some records or you go through trouble of falsifying records for very little reason.
- anonymouskimmer 4y ago
  > or you go through trouble of falsifying records for very little reason. As mentioned by duskwuff above this could be done with a simple dog substitution (easier to do if you're breeding your own dogs), not a record falsification. And for some people a little local fame is enough. When the substituted dog starts to get closer to the world record then the little bit of worldwide fame is just a bonus. It could even start out innocently by naming a new dog after the deceased dog. If they look enough alike any other people might not notice the switch. I'm not saying that it has happened, just that it's possible. And that bad record keeping for dogs would make it easier to either miss very old dogs due to not knowing their age, or to substitute younger dogs for older dogs.

bryanrasmussen 4y ago

>It's true that these conspiracies could exist, whether for humans, or for dogs. Bad record keeping could make it easier for dogs the conspiracies would be more likely to have a payoff for humans though, and in the case of dogs as pointed out, all the humans that would be in charge of making a claim and that it lives among have probably lived as long as that dog or significantly longer. As well as that there are probably lots of people who know the dog that have lived as long or longer, therefore, for any dog that it is likely somebody will make a claim about there are probably lots of people who would be able to contest the claim. So in short, less profit, more people to dispute claims, either you have some records or you go through trouble of falsifying records for very little reason.

anonymouskimmer 4y ago
> or you go through trouble of falsifying records for very little reason. As mentioned by duskwuff above this could be done with a simple dog substitution (easier to do if you're breeding your own dogs), not a record falsification. And for some people a little local fame is enough. When the substituted dog starts to get closer to the world record then the little bit of worldwide fame is just a bonus. It could even start out innocently by naming a new dog after the deceased dog. If they look enough alike any other people might not notice the switch. I'm not saying that it has happened, just that it's possible. And that bad record keeping for dogs would make it easier to either miss very old dogs due to not knowing their age, or to substitute younger dogs for older dogs.