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Am I alone to want absolutely zero debate at all? We're putting the cart before the horse right now. Everything is strictly speculation.

criddell 4y ago
It's not all speculation. Students are using AI for coursework. Financial services companies are granting credit based on AI output. Models are being trained with copyrighted source images. Four years ago, DHH posted this on Twitter: > The @AppleCard is such a fucking sexist program. My wife and I filed joint tax returns, live in a community-property state, and have been married for a long time. Yet Apple’s black box algorithm thinks I deserve 20x the credit limit she does. No appeals work. A few tweets later he writes: > So nobody understands THE ALGORITHM. Nobody has the power to examine or check THE ALGORITHM. Yet everyone we’ve talked to from both Apple and GS are SO SURE that THE ALGORITHM isn’t biased and discriminating in any way. That’s some grade-A management of cognitive dissonance. These impenetrable black boxes are producing output with real world consequences.
- whalesalad 4y ago
  > Students are using AI for coursework. Financial services companies are granting credit based on AI output. Models are being trained with copyrighted source images. None of this bothers me. It's impossible to try and sit down and devise a cohesive solution to these problems. This is literally just the way that the cookie crumbles (into uncharted territory) and premature constraints would be silly imho. If AI destroys the world, let it.
- tome 4y ago
  Hmm, not sure how the black box works, but maybe it knows that he built a business worth tens of millions and she didn't.
goatlover 4y ago
We didn't seem to have a debate on the potential downside of social media when it was new. Maybe speculation is a good thing in case there are big downsides to AI.

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Am I alone to want absolutely zero debate at all? We're putting the cart before the horse right now. Everything is strictly speculation.

by whalesalad 4y ago

criddell 4y ago
It's not all speculation. Students are using AI for coursework. Financial services companies are granting credit based on AI output. Models are being trained with copyrighted source images. Four years ago, DHH posted this on Twitter: > The @AppleCard is such a fucking sexist program. My wife and I filed joint tax returns, live in a community-property state, and have been married for a long time. Yet Apple’s black box algorithm thinks I deserve 20x the credit limit she does. No appeals work. A few tweets later he writes: > So nobody understands THE ALGORITHM. Nobody has the power to examine or check THE ALGORITHM. Yet everyone we’ve talked to from both Apple and GS are SO SURE that THE ALGORITHM isn’t biased and discriminating in any way. That’s some grade-A management of cognitive dissonance. These impenetrable black boxes are producing output with real world consequences.
- whalesalad 4y ago
  > Students are using AI for coursework. Financial services companies are granting credit based on AI output. Models are being trained with copyrighted source images. None of this bothers me. It's impossible to try and sit down and devise a cohesive solution to these problems. This is literally just the way that the cookie crumbles (into uncharted territory) and premature constraints would be silly imho. If AI destroys the world, let it.
- tome 4y ago
  Hmm, not sure how the black box works, but maybe it knows that he built a business worth tens of millions and she didn't.
goatlover 4y ago
We didn't seem to have a debate on the potential downside of social media when it was new. Maybe speculation is a good thing in case there are big downsides to AI.