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> They want to install their own people in other countries regardless of the locals choice? Is that what they were publicly saying since 2007 or is that what y

> They want to install their own people in other countries regardless of the locals choice? Is that what they were publicly saying since 2007 or is that what you interpret it as perceiving Russia as the evil because big media pumps ad revenue on it?

duxup 4y ago
Their actions speak pretty loudly. I’m asking, what is Russia trying to say?
- andreygrehov 4y ago
  > I’m asking, what is Russia trying to say? Stop the expansion. Watch the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44
  - duxup 4y ago
    It sounds like these other countries have listened…
  - mopsi 4y ago
    Yes, dear Eastern Europe, please don't join NATO, otherwise we won't be able to invade you once we finish modernizing our army. After all we are a master race destined by God to rule over Eastern Europe. Please respect our concerns.
  - khochesh_kushat 4y ago
    Simply don't protect yourself from invasion by Russia if you are a potential target for Russian invasion, and Russia will not be forced to invade (at least for now.)
  - happymellon 4y ago
    Okay, so Ukraine didn't join NATO and then they were invaded. That doesn't sound like it's a message worth listening to.
    - andreygrehov 4y ago
      The conflict was almost inevitable. In January, before the war started, Russia made the last attempt to stop the expansion. The U.S. rejected it [1]. Russia made multiple hints saying that if the expansion continues, they'll invade. That's why, imho, Biden was so confident in Feb 19-20 saying the war will begin within a week. Heck, even Ukraine knew everything, but they decided to hide it from people - this was confirmed by the Ukrainian government during one of the interviews. [1] https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-biden-putin-sanctions/31671771.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-biden-putin-sanctions...
      - jnsaff2 4y ago
        So russia tried really hard to NOT invade a sovereign country and US made it impossible? Which twisted logic do you have? russia had no chance but go in and bomb maternity wards, genocide away freely, poor-poor russia, they had no chance of just not doing any of that? /s > Russia made the last attempt to stop the expansion you even use the word expansion here
        andreygrehov 4y ago
        Russia is not targeting civilians, but since this is a war, civilians are obviously affected. What really happens is Russia targets military objects as part of their demilitarization goal. Ukraine shots down a rocket and then debris strikes into civilians buildings. This is happening daily. Example: today's night. My family is in Ukraine right now. Russia was bombing a military base which I used to walk around when I was a kid. Not a single civilian was harmed, but the base is on fire. > So russia tried really hard to NOT invade a sovereign country and US made it impossible? US made it possible by declining Russia's ask. That's how I see it.
        jnsaff2 4y ago
        What legitimate business russia has being in Ukraine at all? Let alone you just lying about russia only targeting military.

duxup 4y ago

Their actions speak pretty loudly. I’m asking, what is Russia trying to say?

andreygrehov 4y ago
> I’m asking, what is Russia trying to say? Stop the expansion. Watch the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44
- duxup 4y ago
  It sounds like these other countries have listened…
- mopsi 4y ago
  Yes, dear Eastern Europe, please don't join NATO, otherwise we won't be able to invade you once we finish modernizing our army. After all we are a master race destined by God to rule over Eastern Europe. Please respect our concerns.
- khochesh_kushat 4y ago
  Simply don't protect yourself from invasion by Russia if you are a potential target for Russian invasion, and Russia will not be forced to invade (at least for now.)
- happymellon 4y ago
  Okay, so Ukraine didn't join NATO and then they were invaded. That doesn't sound like it's a message worth listening to.
  - andreygrehov 4y ago
    The conflict was almost inevitable. In January, before the war started, Russia made the last attempt to stop the expansion. The U.S. rejected it [1]. Russia made multiple hints saying that if the expansion continues, they'll invade. That's why, imho, Biden was so confident in Feb 19-20 saying the war will begin within a week. Heck, even Ukraine knew everything, but they decided to hide it from people - this was confirmed by the Ukrainian government during one of the interviews. [1] https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-biden-putin-sanctions/31671771.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-biden-putin-sanctions...
    - jnsaff2 4y ago
      So russia tried really hard to NOT invade a sovereign country and US made it impossible? Which twisted logic do you have? russia had no chance but go in and bomb maternity wards, genocide away freely, poor-poor russia, they had no chance of just not doing any of that? /s > Russia made the last attempt to stop the expansion you even use the word expansion here
      - andreygrehov 4y ago
        Russia is not targeting civilians, but since this is a war, civilians are obviously affected. What really happens is Russia targets military objects as part of their demilitarization goal. Ukraine shots down a rocket and then debris strikes into civilians buildings. This is happening daily. Example: today's night. My family is in Ukraine right now. Russia was bombing a military base which I used to walk around when I was a kid. Not a single civilian was harmed, but the base is on fire. > So russia tried really hard to NOT invade a sovereign country and US made it impossible? US made it possible by declining Russia's ask. That's how I see it.
        jnsaff2 4y ago
        What legitimate business russia has being in Ukraine at all? Let alone you just lying about russia only targeting military.