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> The cold hard truth is that people would rather the 3-4x salaries. This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is oft

by bb123 4y ago

> The cold hard truth is that people would rather the 3-4x salaries. This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed: > 25 days annual leave (rising to 30 after 5 years), plus 8 public holidays and the King’s birthday Anyway comparing a government job to big tech isn't fair. It is big tech salaries that are unusual, not the other way around.

robswc 4y ago
>Anyway comparing a government job to big tech isn't fair. It is big tech salaries that are unusual, not the other way around. A similar role in the US would still pay 3-4x that. >This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed This is based on people "voting with their talent" and showing that they will put up with _a lot_ in exchange for $150k+ salaries.
ilikehurdles 4y ago
The 5 extra PTO days are not worth halving my salary and then almost halving it again. I may move (back) to Europe when I retire or come close to that age.
- rejectfinite 4y ago
  Are you paying taxes in your own EU country to pay for the pensions and healthcare? You do know that's how it works, right? The social contract is that in your high earning years you pay into the system then when you are young/old you get to use it.
gruez 4y ago
>This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed: >> 25 days annual leave (rising to 30 after 5 years), plus 8 public holidays and the King’s birthday So best case scenario, you get 20 days more paid leave than in the US (which typically only has 2 weeks or 10 days). That works out to approximately 7.7% higher effective wage.
- robswc 4y ago
  Even better, government workers in the US get pretty generous PTO too. It works on a bit of a "banking system" but 25 days + holidays isn't even particularly impressive for a Government position of that seniority. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/annual-leave/ https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-ad... You could pretty easily match that amount of PTO for a comparable position.

by bb123 4y ago

robswc 4y ago

>Anyway comparing a government job to big tech isn't fair. It is big tech salaries that are unusual, not the other way around. A similar role in the US would still pay 3-4x that. >This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed This is based on people "voting with their talent" and showing that they will put up with _a lot_ in exchange for $150k+ salaries.

ilikehurdles 4y ago

The 5 extra PTO days are not worth halving my salary and then almost halving it again. I may move (back) to Europe when I retire or come close to that age.

rejectfinite 4y ago
Are you paying taxes in your own EU country to pay for the pensions and healthcare? You do know that's how it works, right? The social contract is that in your high earning years you pay into the system then when you are young/old you get to use it.

gruez 4y ago

>This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed: >> 25 days annual leave (rising to 30 after 5 years), plus 8 public holidays and the King’s birthday So best case scenario, you get 20 days more paid leave than in the US (which typically only has 2 weeks or 10 days). That works out to approximately 7.7% higher effective wage.

robswc 4y ago
Even better, government workers in the US get pretty generous PTO too. It works on a bit of a "banking system" but 25 days + holidays isn't even particularly impressive for a Government position of that seniority. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/annual-leave/ https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-ad... You could pretty easily match that amount of PTO for a comparable position.