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Amazon to close Book Depository online shop
- shever73 3y agoIt's a pity they were ever acquired by Amazon. I managed to get some quite obscure stuff from Book Depository before they were assimilated.
- ernsheong 3y agoI'm surprised but not surprised. Books get delivered 2-3 months later, if they ever get delivered at all. Need to contact support for replacement. End up preferring to pay the premium at local booksellers than buying from Book Depo. How do they even make money like this.
- ycombinete 3y agoThis is really weird, where are you having the books delivered to? I’ve never once had this experience and I’ve ordered at least 100 books from the book depository, for delivery to the Middle East.
- is_true 3y agoSame here, I'm from South America and I've never had a problem
- Hamuko 3y agoI've never had that issue. My pre-orders usually arrive within a couple of weeks of release date. Too bad that I have a pre-order for a June release with them.
- barbariangrunge 3y agoI've never had these issues
- ernsheong 3y agosorry, I'm from Malaysia
- robjan 3y agoRegularly order to HK and they usually come within a week or so.
- jnsie 3y agoThis really sucks. Use to ship books to family in Ireland and Britain. Amazon with an ever tightening stranglehold :-(
- masfuerte 3y agoI use speedyhen for books in the UK. They are usually as cheap as Amazon and delivery is free. I don't know if they'll accept orders from abroad though.
- arnoldjm 3y agoFrom their FAQ "Do you deliver overseas?": "We are delighted to say we now offer worldwide shipping." But it ain't cheap.
- koboll 3y agoI wonder if Goodreads is next under the guillotine.
- stanac 3y agoHopefully not, maybe someone should scrape everything from there. I didn't know amazon owned book depo, maybe I should have guessed something has changed when they starting sending increased number of marketing emails a year or two ago. edit: typo
- LiveTheDream 3y agoYou can request your data here https://www.goodreads.com/user/edit?ref=nav_profile_settings https://www.goodreads.com/user/edit?ref=nav_profile_settings They will send a confirmation email. After you click the link to confirm, it says "We will provide your information to you as soon as we can. Usually, this should take no more than a month." EDIT: you can export your book database as CSV (shelves, ratings, reviews, etc) here https://www.goodreads.com/review/import https://www.goodreads.com/review/import (there's a link towards the top to export...disregard that the URL says "import".
- bongobingo1 3y agoCan it reasonably take a month to export the data from Goodreads? I barely use it but from what I recall its basically lists of will-read and have-read right? Is that delay strictly a "cooling off" sort of tactic?
- LiveTheDream 3y agoI assume this data export includes much more than just the book data (which I just discovered you can get immediately as CVS via https://www.goodreads.com/review/import https://www.goodreads.com/review/import) which might be part of a compliance requirement.
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- newbie578 3y agoDefinitely disappointed, I used them regularly for the last 6/7 years, ordered from them over 70 books and this feels like a punch in the gut. My country is not served by Amazon Prime, so basically for a single book I have to pay a delivery fee of 10 euros... While on the other hand Book Depository offered a free delivery, although you waited a month or two. Shame, it really sucks, never should have allowed Amazon to buy them.
- orangepurple 3y agoLibrary Genesis knows no borders
- paol 3y agoWow, didn't see this coming. Though, in retrospect, it's not obvious what value Amazon was getting from running a parallel store. As a customer this sucks. The website was a much better experience than amazon, and the free shipping everywhere was nice.
- almog 3y agoHopefully this will put regulator on track to pursue anti trust when Amazon attempts similar acquisitions in the future.
- McDyver 3y agoAmazon seems to be following Microsoft's EEE strategy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...), skipping the Extend
- shever73 3y agoEven the "Embrace" is a bit like the embrace of a sarlacc.
- lucasmullens 3y agoEEE is about extending open standards in a way that extinguishes the competition, since they can't keep up. Amazon buying a competitor and shutting it down might be monopolistic, but it's not EEE.
- oska 3y ago> skipping the Extend
- manicennui 3y agoThis is every big tech company for the last couple decades. They buy up their competitors or potential competitors and either immediately or eventually shut them down. I'm sure this will lead to great things.
- Aissen 3y agoThey are often cheaper than Amazon in the marketplace, and have a very good reputation. A bit of shame :-/
- Hamuko 3y agoThey also deliver worldwide for free. Meanwhile ordering a 13.18€ book from Amazon.de will incure 9.85€ in postage because my closest Amazon is an entire Baltic Sea away. (Well, technically Amazon.de has free deliveries too – you just need to buy order at least 99€ worth of them at once)
- ssijak 3y ago"They also deliver worldwide for free.". They calculate shipping in the price. So depending on where you are you will see different price of the book. Still, the only option to get many english books shipped to a big part of the world.
- Hamuko 3y agoWell, "extremely cheap" shipping then. I had that 13.18€ Amazon.de book pre-ordered on Book Depository for 14.00€. So the Amazon.de delivery is 12 times the cost of the Book Depository shipping cost. Had to order it from a local retailer instead since it releases in June, where it cost me 16.10€ with shipping.
- slyall 3y agoI just checked a book ( The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson in paperback ) for shipping to New Zealand. Book Depository is $NZ 21.19 total. Including shipping a NZ Tax (GST). Discounted from $24.77 Amazon is $26.27 for the book, $24 for shipping, $7.50 for tax and $1.30 for "Exchange rate guarantee fee". Total is $NZ 59.27 or almost 3x what Book Depository wanted.
- EliRivers 3y ago$1.30 for "Exchange rate guarantee fee". Wow, are you forced to have that if you make that purchase? That's a huge percentage to charge to cover someone's exchange rate risk over that timespan with those currencies. Someone's making out like an absolute bandit there.
- n2j3 3y agoYou can at least export your wishlist to a table-laden html file @ https://www.bookdepository.com/account/wishlist/print https://www.bookdepository.com/account/wishlist/print
- activitypea 3y agoThere are no words for how much this sucks. If you are outside the US/EU, reasonably priced books in english aren't easy to find. CompSci literature in English? Forget it, buddy. Book Depository had decent prices with free international shipping to most of the world. Sure, I have to wait a month and sometimes they have to reship because it got damaged in transport, but if I need a book immediately Library Genesis is right there. Book Depository built out my home library for both fiction and non-fiction, and I will miss it dearly. Salute o7
- perch56 3y agoI'm inside the EU (Ireland) and "reasonably priced books in English aren't easy to find" unless you're buying pre-owned books and in most cases I can't find what I'm looking for specially when it comes to tech books. As an island, we're very much dependent on Amazon.co.uk for books.
- shever73 3y agoIf you're in Dublin then Chapters has a fantastic, on-going (closing down, perhaps?) sale on fiction. I can't find books cheaper on Amazon than there. For tech books, I get the ISBN from Amazon and then order them from Books Upstairs. It is more expensive, but not excessively so.
- maleno 3y agoThey don't have everything when it comes to tech or more niche material, but Kenny's (https://www.kennys.ie/ https://www.kennys.ie/) is very good and offers free (and often fast) shipping.
- Symbiote 3y agoThat also looks like a good alternative for the EU and some other countries, with delivery at €1 per book. (Just not the USA, which is €9.50 for some reason.) https://www.kennys.ie/delivery-details https://www.kennys.ie/delivery-details
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- gregdoesit 3y agoI do wonder if Brexit and customs to be paid for all of the EU has anything to do with this decision. Book Depsitory is based in the UK. I have inadvertently ordered from them, to the Netherlands, as they had a “Bookdepository NL” store, which made it seem like they are an EU entity. However, when the book arrived, I was hit by unexpected customs charges that were half the price of the book. Looking at recent reviews, there was a surge of these complaints from all customers in the Netherlands [1] Perhaps the timing on these customs surges are accidental, of course. But I can’t imagine that Brexit helped with their EU sales. [1] https://twitter.com/gergelyorosz/status/1638824647390003206 https://twitter.com/gergelyorosz/status/1638824647390003206
- Hamuko 3y agoI've never ever had to pay VAT at the customs for Book Depository orders in Finland. My most recent order came in March and I had a pre-order for June.
- thomond 3y agoAre books VAT free in Finland? They are in the UK and Ireland so I have never had customs either (in Ireland). Perhaps they are not VAT free in NL.
- Hamuko 3y agoBooks are in the lowered VAT category of 10%. There's very few things in Finland that are actually VAT free. Ebooks used to be in the general VAT category of 24% but I think they've fixed that now.
- Broken_Hippo 3y agoI haven't in Norway either, but books are exempt from VAT.
- thomond 3y agoAre books VAT free in NL? If not that's probably why.
- rapfaria 3y agoAbeBooks next?
- _trackno5 3y agoGoddammit, I had no idea Amazon owned Book Depository. Their service was great and it was the best way I had to buy technical books when i lived in Brazil.
- L0in 3y agoNOOO. C'MON... WTF AMAZON
- toastercat 3y agoIn case anyone cares, I started looking for online bookseller alternatives to Amazon a while ago, and have generally enjoyed shopping with Alibris.
- slyall 3y agoInternational shipping at Alibris is around $US 20 per book.
- rcarr 3y agoThis does suck for obvious reasons, but I also think we need to get a good, thin, eInk tablet like Remarkable or Boox Note down to the sub 100 usd/gbp price. Kindles are ok but they’re too small for textbooks and you’re also locked into Amazon. Plus they’re read only (apart from the latest one), and the new generation of tablets around atm can serve as paper like notebooks as well as eReaders. I like reading paper books as much as the next guy but it is hard to justify sending millions of books each year all over the world when we could send them over the wire for a fraction of the cost and pollution.
- rvba 3y agoUntil they decide to retroactively delete your book, or change the text, because someone didnt like it. Or more prosaic "feature": ban the book in your region.
- rcarr 3y agoWell if it’s in a proprietary format, then sure. But if it’s not then no, they can’t do that. And it’s not like paper books haven’t been subjected to regional bans and text changes (see the recent roald Dahl news) so I don’t know what you’re getting at there. People can still import paper books regardless and people can get around digital restrictions through things like VPNs, torrents and what not also. There’s nothing stopping someone from sending a usb stick with an entire library of books into a country either and arguably a lot easier than sending one paperback as you could hide a usb in anything.
- kawera 3y agoFirst dpreview.com, now this. I wonder who's next...
- operatingthetan 3y agoAlexa? Have they ever made a dime on it?
- kawera 3y agoProbably never, same with that hardware "buy" button they have/had.
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- yardie 3y agoIt took longer than I thought. Amazon bought TBD over a decade ago. I figured they would have snuffed them out years ago. It was a sad day when they got bought by Amazon. Good luck to the team.
- xjrp 3y agoGood, of 4 books I ordered in two different order I received one. It was so poorly packed…
- jcmontx 3y agoThis breaks my heart. I've found so many books which are imposible to find in my country.
- mabbo 3y agoSeems a simple plan to address a competitor. Buy it. Invest nothing major into it. Wait for the economy to take a downturn and shut it down because it isn't profitable.
- unmole 3y agoFrom the comments I got: 1. It was a good place to buy English books in non-English speaking countries. 2. The shipping was free (Actually, folded into the price of the book and location dependent) 3. Delivery could take anywhere between a few weeks to months. I'm wondering if it would be viable to offer an alternative service out of India and I'm willing to try out an experiment: Post the title of a book you would have bought via Book Depository and I'll try to send it out to you for free. Just let me know when the book arrives and in what condition so as to gauge how reliable the postal network is. I don't have a budget in mind but I'd like to ship at least 5 books to different geographies.
- JamesAdir 3y agoAt least to my country, BD shipped envelops with books and declared them as print media, it seems to have a international very low postage tariffs. When I get books from Amazon they are always shipped in boxes and that is packages and subjected to much higher tariff and customs fee if above a certain value.
- activitypea 3y agoHow do you get a vast catalogue of physical copies of English books in India?
- unmole 3y agoEnglish books are widely and cheaply available in India. Or did I misunderstand your question?
- activitypea 3y agoHuh, cool. I imagined in most non-english speaking countries (outside of EU), getting English literature isn't easy.
- unmole 3y agoWhile the number of native speakers is minuscule, English is widely used in India. And according to Nielsen, India is the second largest English-language book market in the world.
- lethologica 3y agoAt least half of my library came from BookDepository so this makes me really sad. It’s so expensive to get books shipped to Australia.
- yakubin 3y agoThat’s a bummer. Most of the technical books I bought on Amazon were supplied by Book Depository. Are they going to just disappear now?
- jakub_g 3y agoLiving in France, to buy technical books in English for sensible money and without onerous shipping cost, I always used Amazon and the books were often delivered by Book Depository. Wondering how things will be after it closes.