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Wouldn't it be much more effective theater if they actually succeeded? Why pretend to be incompetent?

by sebzim4500 4y ago

sprash 4y ago
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- khochesh_kushat 4y ago
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- causi 4y ago
  It's not questionable at all. For five percent of the annual US defense budget it has destroyed approximately half the total warmaking capacity of Russia. That's a damn good return on investment.
- timeon 4y ago
  > Hence there is a backdoor deal between both faction to let the war progress at a very slow pace. And your source is?
  - khochesh_kushat 4y ago
    It's a funny jump of logic a lot of people make. Sometimes people profit off of war, therefore all wars are secretly arranged by a cabal of war profiteers in back room deals. There's lots of variations but there's often a core true statement that is then used to leap to wild theories without any evidence.
    - twixfel 4y ago
      I find it most ridiculous because ultimately war is hugely, hugely expensive. It doesn't make much sense.
      - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        It is. Hugely expensive, and hugely wasteful. But a big part of the expense is buying arms. That means that someone is making and selling those arms. And the seller is doing really good business. I completely disagree with sprash, but you're going too far in the opposite direction. War profits are in fact a thing. It's good business for at least some. Where I disagree with sprash is that I don't believe that those people are the tail that is wagging the dog.
- PurpleRamen 4y ago
  Russia is the one getting ruined over this war. You really think they do this on purpose? Western economies also suffer to some degree, but at the same time have also great benefits from it.
  - majkinetor 4y ago
    Yeah, west is totally honest here, and we don't have a shitshow in Europe curently :S
- scottLobster 4y ago
  Ah, the perennial Russian line that Western militaries are just too expensive to operate for long, and cheap Russian pragmatism will win in the long run. If we can just force them to waste all those expensive missiles on cheap Iranian drones, eventually they'll run out of money! Yeah, maybe if Russia could sustain the effort for 30 years or something, which they can't. We're just that rich.

Wouldn't it be much more effective theater if they actually succeeded? Why pretend to be incompetent?

sprash 4y ago

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khochesh_kushat 4y ago
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causi 4y ago
It's not questionable at all. For five percent of the annual US defense budget it has destroyed approximately half the total warmaking capacity of Russia. That's a damn good return on investment.
timeon 4y ago
> Hence there is a backdoor deal between both faction to let the war progress at a very slow pace. And your source is?
- khochesh_kushat 4y ago
  It's a funny jump of logic a lot of people make. Sometimes people profit off of war, therefore all wars are secretly arranged by a cabal of war profiteers in back room deals. There's lots of variations but there's often a core true statement that is then used to leap to wild theories without any evidence.
  - twixfel 4y ago
    I find it most ridiculous because ultimately war is hugely, hugely expensive. It doesn't make much sense.
    - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
      It is. Hugely expensive, and hugely wasteful. But a big part of the expense is buying arms. That means that someone is making and selling those arms. And the seller is doing really good business. I completely disagree with sprash, but you're going too far in the opposite direction. War profits are in fact a thing. It's good business for at least some. Where I disagree with sprash is that I don't believe that those people are the tail that is wagging the dog.
PurpleRamen 4y ago
Russia is the one getting ruined over this war. You really think they do this on purpose? Western economies also suffer to some degree, but at the same time have also great benefits from it.
- majkinetor 4y ago
  Yeah, west is totally honest here, and we don't have a shitshow in Europe curently :S
scottLobster 4y ago
Ah, the perennial Russian line that Western militaries are just too expensive to operate for long, and cheap Russian pragmatism will win in the long run. If we can just force them to waste all those expensive missiles on cheap Iranian drones, eventually they'll run out of money! Yeah, maybe if Russia could sustain the effort for 30 years or something, which they can't. We're just that rich.