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Memories of working for Glu London after they got taken over by EA. We had the consultation process, of course it was a foregone conclusion. As others mentione

by stuaxo 4y ago

Memories of working for Glu London after they got taken over by EA. We had the consultation process, of course it was a foregone conclusion. As others mentioned, in the UK (for now) you eliminate roles, not people - this means you can't just shift a role to another cheaper country. I was training someone to do exactly my job in China, but it somehow wasn't the same role. The team I was in wasn't treated as badly as some of them. I remember when the guy came in, who we later found out was going to cut everyone - got instant business psychopath vibes.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
> As others mentioned, in the UK (for now) you eliminate roles, not people - this means you can't just shift a role to another cheaper country. Of course you can. If you shift a role from the UK office to the Bangalore office you have made that role redundant in the UK and can layoff the employee...
- IanCal 4y ago
  It's not that simple. There are two points to this 1. There's explicit legislation around moving a role to another company (TUPE regulations) 2. Just because the role goes doesn't mean that that employee needs to leave. You may instead want to let a different employee go and shift the one whose role has disappeared over.
  - mytailorisrich 4y ago
    Nitpick. In practice, your employer do away with your role. You're made redundant. It's a simple downsizing.
    - IanCal 4y ago
      It's not a nitpick it's a key difference between removing a role and removing a person specifically. I've definitely seen roles go and people move internally while other people go. It's an important legal distinction.
- fakedang 4y ago
  I believe salaries in the UK are pretty much on par with salaries in Bangalore these days? Edit:- for FAANG
dboreham 4y ago
> you eliminate roles, not people Just to calibrate, this is also the case in the US. Although most of the time an employee can be fired/laid off for any reason or no reason, employers generally want to present layoffs as "the role has gone" for contract and employment law reasons.
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>I was training someone to do exactly my job in China, but it somehow wasn't the same role. lol, yeah, I know such workarounds companies have at their disposal. For example, in my EU country, to hire people outside the EU is very difficult ... in theory. You must first prove you've exhausted the local and EU candidate pool, unless ... you create a new job opening with bullshit requirements that are hugely specific and rule out any local candidates, like the need to speak Hindi/Mandarin, and presto, you got a visa for that candidate.

by stuaxo 4y ago

mytailorisrich 4y ago

> As others mentioned, in the UK (for now) you eliminate roles, not people - this means you can't just shift a role to another cheaper country. Of course you can. If you shift a role from the UK office to the Bangalore office you have made that role redundant in the UK and can layoff the employee...

IanCal 4y ago
It's not that simple. There are two points to this 1. There's explicit legislation around moving a role to another company (TUPE regulations) 2. Just because the role goes doesn't mean that that employee needs to leave. You may instead want to let a different employee go and shift the one whose role has disappeared over.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  Nitpick. In practice, your employer do away with your role. You're made redundant. It's a simple downsizing.
  - IanCal 4y ago
    It's not a nitpick it's a key difference between removing a role and removing a person specifically. I've definitely seen roles go and people move internally while other people go. It's an important legal distinction.
fakedang 4y ago
I believe salaries in the UK are pretty much on par with salaries in Bangalore these days? Edit:- for FAANG

dboreham 4y ago

> you eliminate roles, not people Just to calibrate, this is also the case in the US. Although most of the time an employee can be fired/laid off for any reason or no reason, employers generally want to present layoffs as "the role has gone" for contract and employment law reasons.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>I was training someone to do exactly my job in China, but it somehow wasn't the same role. lol, yeah, I know such workarounds companies have at their disposal. For example, in my EU country, to hire people outside the EU is very difficult ... in theory. You must first prove you've exhausted the local and EU candidate pool, unless ... you create a new job opening with bullshit requirements that are hugely specific and rule out any local candidates, like the need to speak Hindi/Mandarin, and presto, you got a visa for that candidate.