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i kind of disagree. i can add X + Y for any values of X and Y. not because i have a gigantic table in my head, but because i know the rules of adding 2 numbers

i kind of disagree. i can add X + Y for any values of X and Y. not because i have a gigantic table in my head, but because i know the rules of adding 2 numbers. AI is to some extent doing the same. the fact that it does increasingly weird unhuman things to me indicates it is infact intelligence. it isnt just parroting the answers for itself. it is using its flawed understanding to attempt to reach an answer. humans are also flawed and come out with stupid answers, but we are used to that and can understand it.

sph 4y ago
Knowledge != intelligence. So many people tend to conveniently forget this fact these days. You know how addition works, this fact alone does not make you intelligent. Intelligence = ability to solve novel problems. Requires out-of-the-box thinking. ChatGPT cannot learn and solve problems it has never encountered before, thus it is not intelligent. Also, training != learning.
- benj111 4y ago
  Knowledge would be memorising a big table of additions. Intelligence is knowing the rules of addition to apply it to 2 numbers you've never been shown how to add. I can memorise 1+1. I've never been shown the answer to 47459592271638494 + 3745802297337747488. That for me is a novel problem that would need to be solved. So the fact that I have knowledge of mathematics and can apply it shows I have intelligence. Out of the box thinking isn't a prerequisite of intelligence. It's a special case that humans are good at and computers aren't. If a mouse bumbles around a maze, eventually finds the cheese, and from then on goes straight to the cheese, that would be a sign of intelligence. If a robot does the same, why is that any less intelligent?
  - kaba0 4y ago
    So did I just write an intelligent program: T add(T a, T b) { return a + b; } And let’s make T BigInteger for now.
    - benj111 4y ago
      For some value of intelligent yes. The thing is this is basically instinct. At the transistor level a computer knows how to add two numbers together. But then again any kind of AI is going to come down to binary digits so unless, definitionally, a computer can never be intelligent then we have to allow that your example is some kind of intelligence.

sph 4y ago

Knowledge != intelligence. So many people tend to conveniently forget this fact these days. You know how addition works, this fact alone does not make you intelligent. Intelligence = ability to solve novel problems. Requires out-of-the-box thinking. ChatGPT cannot learn and solve problems it has never encountered before, thus it is not intelligent. Also, training != learning.

benj111 4y ago
Knowledge would be memorising a big table of additions. Intelligence is knowing the rules of addition to apply it to 2 numbers you've never been shown how to add. I can memorise 1+1. I've never been shown the answer to 47459592271638494 + 3745802297337747488. That for me is a novel problem that would need to be solved. So the fact that I have knowledge of mathematics and can apply it shows I have intelligence. Out of the box thinking isn't a prerequisite of intelligence. It's a special case that humans are good at and computers aren't. If a mouse bumbles around a maze, eventually finds the cheese, and from then on goes straight to the cheese, that would be a sign of intelligence. If a robot does the same, why is that any less intelligent?
- kaba0 4y ago
  So did I just write an intelligent program: T add(T a, T b) { return a + b; } And let’s make T BigInteger for now.
  - benj111 4y ago
    For some value of intelligent yes. The thing is this is basically instinct. At the transistor level a computer knows how to add two numbers together. But then again any kind of AI is going to come down to binary digits so unless, definitionally, a computer can never be intelligent then we have to allow that your example is some kind of intelligence.