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I mean, you do know that regular Tylenol still works as pain medication? You don't necessarily need narcotics for broken bones.
by the_mar 4y ago
I mean, you do know that regular Tylenol still works as pain medication?
You don't necessarily need narcotics for broken bones.
- Spivak 4y agoI think there's two schools of thought on this one. A: Time limited access to narcotics is safe and effective pain management for severe but temporary injuries and I don't exist to suffer in this world -- give me the good stuff. B: If I can reduce my pain into "bearable" with nsiad painkillers then I don't want to take narcotics. I think one of the dangers of B in the real world is that for severe pain doctors are terrified of prescribing narcotics that they put you on the nsaid cycle with extremely high doses which can wreck your stomach lining and liver. When I was recovering from surgery they gave me Xanax, Vallium and Tylenol to basically sedate me for 2 straight weeks because of this nonsense and it was miserable. Just trading one kind of high for another but the new way you mostly keep the pain.
- the_mar 4y agoI’m not trying to say that narcotic painkillers are ineffective or necessarily dangerous. I am saying that many kinds of pain can be managed with OTC medication. There aren’t necessarily two schools of thought. It’s more that if let’s say ibuprofen isn’t helping the pain, it may just be that you aren’t taking enough of it. It is a very effective pain medicine.
- sammax 4y agoWhat a shitty take. There’s only so much ibuprofen you can take before the risks start outweighing the benefits, and there’s plenty of pain that is much stronger than that.
- the_mar 4y agoActually you can take quite a bit of ibuprofen for a short period of time with no long term problems. You can also take ibuprofen and acetaminophen. It is quite the hot take that narcotic pain meds are safer. I’m not at all suggesting ibuprofen for pain management of cancer patients or people immediately after major surgery. But for a big chunk of outpatient procedures enough OTC pain meds will actually work just fine. I’m not some granola advocate here. Nor am I trying to say that everyone should just tough it out. But you can’t seriously say that 800mg ibuprofen is more dangerous or less effective than opioids for wisdom teeth removal
- pyinstallwoes 4y agoHave you suffered excruciating pain for multiple days in a row? Non stop? Like so bad that your muscles recoil in horror that then causes even more pain in a recursive loop of horror?
- carlmr 4y agoActually yes, in Germany if you break your bones you get ibuprofen, if you get your wisdom teeth pulled, you get ibuprofen. We don't have an opioid crisis anymore. Pain is a fact of life. The problem in the US is that there's the expectation to work the next day. It's ok to be in pain, it's also ok to miss out on work. If you accept these two basic facts you don't have an opioid crisis anymore.
- the_mar 4y agoActually in the US you also get ibuprofen. I had very invasive jaw surgery and sinus repair. It hurt. I got 600mg ibuprofen and 600mg acetaminophen for the pain every 4-6 hours. It definitively took pain down to tolerable levels.
- sterlind 4y agoas a counterexample, I had an infected tooth over the weekend. I took ibuprofen and acetaminophen around the clock, and it did jack shit. I was lying in bed and whimpering in pain, so close to going to the ER, but I knew they wouldn't do anything for me. I actually have mild PTSD about that incident. It was the second-worst pain I've experienced in my life, and it wouldn't stop.